Dark Knight Rises: Did Christopher Nolan Pave the Way to Something Even More Cryptic?

Spoiler alert! Could the next Batman be even darker?

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Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Blake in The Dark Night Rises

Warning: This article contains major spoilers about The Dark Knight Rises. If you haven’t seen it, bookmark this and return later. You’ll thank me.

If you haven’t seen The Dark Knight Rises, then you really want to stop reading now. Seriously.

But if you’ve already taken the plunge, you know that the final act of Christopher Nolan’s purported final Batman film (with these kinds of profits, you never know) unfolds in a head-spinning flurry of revelations. There’s a bomb ticking down to zero, a tearful butler, a heartbroken police commissioner — and of course, one furious detective. It’s an onslaught of character twists and plot turns that I’ve only begun to fully process.

Besides the is-Batman-dead mystery — which ends in something of a cop-out, if you ask me — the most intriguing aspect of the finale involves Blake (played by a headstrong Joseph Gordon-Levitt). In a bid to save a few of Gotham’s kids from certain nuclear annihilation, the detective guides a school bus onto a city bridge, where he is confronted by armed men in uniforms who have been charged with shutting down the roadway to comply with Bane’s threats.

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It’s a showdown reminiscent of what happens at the end of The Dark Knight. In that earlier story, the Joker rigged three boats with bombs and gave the passengers something of a prisoner’s dilemma, incentivizing each captain to blow the other boats out of the water. Batman was well aware of this setup and of the dangers facing the crews and passengers, and yet he turned his attention to chasing down the Joker, expressing faith that the citizens would do the right thing. I found it to be an intriguing apex for a superhero blockbuster, that Gotham effectively has to save itself from the demons being whipped up by a madman. And when the passengers effectively put down the detonators, they proved one of the movie’s biggest points: that while Batman is there to chase down bad guys in the middle of the night, he is most interested in using his power to help Gotham build its own institutions. He’s a hero with an expiration date.

Flash forward to the end of The Dark Knight Rises. Here’s another situation in which our hero confronts the fear of his fellow citizens. Instead of Batman having to put his faith in boat passengers, it’s Blake who has to put his faith in the officials at the end of the bridge. They’ve been ordered to blow it up should anyone try to escape the city, but as Blake screams to them, the situation has changed. The bomb is in play, its explosion assured, and they need to help him get the kids to safety. Unlike Batman’s faith in the passengers, Blake’s confidence in the officers is misguided. They blow up the bridge, dooming the kids to certain death. He throws his badge into the water, disgusted that his counterparts would blindly follow their orders.

For Blake, it is a definitive betrayal. Shortly after the bridge blows up, Batman single-handedly saves the city by sacrificing himself. Unlike in The Dark Knight, the task to stop the bloodshed this time fell squarely on Batman’s shoulders. Without him, the city would have fallen. Or at the very least, the kids trapped on the bridge would have died. And that is what fuels Blake’s next moves: tracking down the Batcave (looking at what appears to be a map, which could suggest the crown has been passed down) and locating all the brilliant gadgets inside.

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It seems like a hopeful ending — one that suggests a future for the franchise and the rise of a new hero. But the more I thought about those last few minutes, the more I became convinced that Nolan has opened the door to an even bleaker continuation of his pitch-black vision. For all the dark elements in Batman Begins, The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises, there was still a ray of hope in Batman’s optimism about his citizens and city. He believed in them — so much so that he was willing to play the villain to preserve Harvey Dent’s image.

But if Blake, or should I say Robin, steps up as the next superhero, he won’t have that blind faith in Gotham. He witnessed the city at its worst moment — at the crossroads where it took a caped crusader, not a city leader, to stave off extinction. And if he were to dress up and make use of the gadgets, he wouldn’t be a new Batman but a new breed of hero who believes that he, and not others, is ultimately responsible.

I could be making too much out of the ending, but I see a clear line from here to there — that a hopeful Batman franchise could transition into a darkly cynical Robin franchise, helmed by a superhero who doesn’t see a city’s brighter days ahead but instead considers himself the last line of defense. There is considerable debate in The Dark Knight Rises about the hero a city deserves and the one it needs. But a Robin franchise could advance that argument even further, pondering what it means for a city to not just deserve a hero but also rely on a masked vigilante. It’s a descent into dependency I’d be intrigued to consider.

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63 comments
KenThompson
KenThompson

The only way that a 4th Batman movie could come to light is if they did Batman Beyond getting Kevin Conroy as Bruce Wayne and Joseph Gordon-Levitt to play as Terry McGinnis set 40yrs in the future and you can call it Batman Rebirth forever forgetting about The Dark Knight Rises. 

MaxPalombella1
MaxPalombella1

Ok, this is going to sound egotistical but I kind of envisioned the Chris Nolan Batman arc to be a four part deal, one that would truly bring the character of Bruce Wayn full circle, as Nolan puts it.

 So if you will bare with me I will try to explain myself. Frankly I thought that neither Batman nor Talia should not have "died" but survived. Then Blake recieves the co-ordinates to the cave, where he would find Bruce waiting for him in the Batcave. They would have a quick talk about masks and anyone being Batman before offering to train him to be a "hero". It would end with Bruce asking Robin, "ARE YOU READY TO BEGIN?" (alluding to Bruce's induction into the League of Shadows). Bruce would reach out to Robin as the platform rises.  Cut to black. THE DARK KNIGHT RISES. boom. It would have made far more sense than, hey here you go your batman good luck, bye!

Then maybe a fourth film (Dark Knight Legacy?) where Bruce having trained Blake brings him out into Gotham where he becomes Nightwing, (or maybe even taking place a couple of years after Rises and has trained Robin by this point). Talia re-emerges to destroy Gotham, and reveals that she has a son, Damian. Her plan is to encourage Bruce to join the house of Wayne and al Ghul to become an unstoppable army of "true justice" and tries to show him by pushing him to the absolute brink with almost endless crime sprees taking place over the city and that the only way to end it would be for him to command the League of Shadows. He refuses and has to defeat while at the same time realizing that he has a son. By the end of the film Talia would have been defeated, Bruce would have a son to look after therefore understandably retiring his Batman and passing the torch onto Robin, who by now has truly earned his place as Gotham's new Dark Knight. The final shot I saw was of Bruce and little Damian holding hands while they look out towards Gotham, as he tells Damian about the "legend of Batman" (something similar to Gordon's speech at the end of TDK) . The camera would then move past them,  past the Batcave waterfall, over woods and rivers and then onto the city itself. Then we would reach one tall building as the camera shoots up it and we John Blake as the new Batman watching over his city, the sun setting (similar to the opening of the animated series!). Bruce's narration would end as Batman jumps down (all in the same shot), plummeting towards the street before the cape opens and we see the silhouette of THE BATMAN (with the silhouette mirroring the bat emblem on his batsuit!). Cut to Black! Dark Knight Legacy!

mrugeles
mrugeles

Not to mention the final scene on Dark Knight Rises uses the track "Aggressive Expansion" from The Dark Knight.

Deiradinn
Deiradinn

I loved this movie. The end to the Bruce Wayne story for now. The movie wasn't about him rising, but making way for the next Batman, Blake, who played "Robin" basically through this movie. The ending comes as Blake finds the new cave with help of former Batman Bruce Wayne, the platform rises and then the title "The Dark Knight Rises". No, it doesn't follow the comics, this is Nolan's iteration of Batman. The whole movie is about Batman being a symbol, hope, for a decadent city. Anyone could be Batman. Bane, Tom Hardy, is menacing as villains come. Anne Hathaway plays a great Catwoman, and the rest of the cast bring the movie to life. The score is immersive. Bruce Wayne is still alive but finally trying to move on. Who knows what's in store for the next in the series but I hope they continue to build on this version instead of rebooting or having Tim Burton anywhere near it. I like this vision better, and it's about the best way you can make believable in real life settings.

ZaizoLeo
ZaizoLeo

I think this could lead to a Nightwing movie with the bat signal repaired and the fact that Nightwings suit has a bat logo on it not to mention it would be silly for him to go around as Robin with his real name being Robin on top of that Robin has always been Batmans sidekick for some time but Nightwing has always been a full fledged Hero.

KenThompson
KenThompson

If they do make another batman movie I hope they can make it better then the last three films. the joker was a joke and bane sound like scooby doo with a gas mask on and batman sounded like he had layrngitis and needed a lozenger.

michaellittle21
michaellittle21

I think the best way forward for the Batman films would be to introduce a Robin franchise with Levitt (2 movies or so) before trying to get Bale back for a movie including both heroes. 

Lee Jones
Lee Jones

LOL, you're all clowns, Levitt could never pull off being batman, did you see him in the movie his is a full 6 inches shorter than Bale, LOL take the tin foil off your heads people.

If anything he will be Night-wing, and for those saying no one knows him, well there was never a Blake playing Robin in the comics either but that didn't stop Nolan from using a  totally new name did it?

Tony Arakkal
Tony Arakkal

Here is a problem with Blake becoming the next hero. He lacks the experience and the training to become the next "Batman." Go Back and watch Batman Begins. Bruce Wayne went through intense training and lived on the streets. Eventually, he joined the League of Shadows. Blake did none of these things. If Batman was passing the torch, I was hoping it would be like Batman Beyond......except the replacement isn't really a clone/son of Bruce Wayne(oops another spoiler.)

NM2000
NM2000

That was my take. Wayne a) was fabulously wealthy, b) had a military Ramp;D company at his disposal and a network of trusted allies, c) toured the world training his body, reflexes, and mind to the heights of human ability, d) affiliated himself with some of the most dastardly and capable men on the planet, and e) had this sort of goal of vengeance his whole life.

Now Blake walks in and gets to be the next superhero just because he guesses Batman's identity and says he feels the same way? I mean, what else did he really do other than be a decent detective and have a moral center. When it came to actual hero-ing, not much. He failed to convince people to let them through on the bridge, the one task Batman gave him. And when Batman saves him, he helps by disarming one guy and then just stands around and watches while Batman fights five or six others by himself. Then he's given a cave full of toys and?

Is Lucius (who, lets be honest may not even be on the Board much longer after Wayne Enterprises recent few fiscal quarters) really going to just trust some kid he never met that shows up claiming Batman wants him to have some more of Lucius's top secret military gear? And even then, who supplies it when Lucius is gone because he isn't a spring chicken. And what about repairs? Without training, you think he isn't going to wrap that Batmobile around a lamppost or two the first time he hits the rocket thrusters? All his new batgear will be broken in months. And without Wayne's billion-dollar pockets to fix it...

James Lampkin
James Lampkin

Nolan did such a spectacular service to this series that I hate for anyone to try and follow it...spin off, remake, sequel, et cetera...

The best ending is the one where the fans can discuss it for years to comes. Dreaming about the endless possibilities of what would happen next. If a film studio attempts to recreate the Nolan-esque euphoria it simply mars The Dark Knight trilogy.

Me, Myself and I
Me, Myself and I

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Lastrova
Lastrova

Batman isn't dead for Pete's sake.  This dude is going to be Robin.  That was pretty clear way early in the movie.  Set up! Moreover, Batman put his plane on automatic pilot to a distant destination and he, most intelligently, parachuted out.

LK312
LK312

What if he already was Robin in TDKR?  Afterall, he was Batman's sidekick in this movie and his name was actually Robin - we just did not realize it until the end.  Perhaps the ending where Blake's full name is revealed was intended not to just disclose his name, but to confirm that he had actually been Batman's Robin in this film. 

thorpe12
thorpe12

No you don't say! When Bruce Alfred and Selina are sat round a restaurant table discussing future plans. If you watch the movie closely you will notce That Mr. Nolan is hinting about other baddies but in some way I surpose you would have to play Arkham city to guess that one with certain sceneries,and no the Dark Knight would be trainning robin to become a Knight and they would go of and chase down certain baddies.

thorpe12
thorpe12

No you don't say! When Alfred Bruce and Selina are sat outside around a restaurant table discussing future plans. You can tell in the movie who the next baddies are. They were hinting big time, and no Robin will not be taking over but being trained by the Dark Knight.

Silky Johnson
Silky Johnson

They could do Batman Beyond...  Or a hybrid Robin/Azrael character.  Especially considering how dark Azrael was.  Then you could actually do a 4th Batman with Bale returning to defeat Azrael who's ultimately fallen to his own darkness.

Yuvraj Solanki
Yuvraj Solanki

Does anyone remember batman beyond ??

Muhammad Bilal Islam
Muhammad Bilal Islam

Oh yeah! If WB was smart, and these last 3 Batman movies proved they have to be at least somewhat intelligent, they would go in that direction.

Gary Shotweb Bailey
Gary Shotweb Bailey

Hi long time Batman fan.

I was very disappointed in the movie, it had a lot of potential and you're overlooking things.

Why would people think Bruce would be back? He killed himself in the public light, who knows what he is calling himself now, he won't be back as Batman plus where would he live? His manor became the home for parentless brats.

Next why would the trilogy even pick up from this latest blunder? Nolan's world of Batman had a Batman start in his thirties.. this is the end of his films they are working on a Justice League film script, references to Superman and the other appearing heroes would have been in the movie. Nolan wanted realism in his films and very loosely kept that in mind for the last film. Batman will have to be rebooted or have the Justice League Batman set sometime inbetween the DK and DKR, things like how he needed a walking cane was ever really explained, he got shot and took a plunge with Dent.. but he was up and running from police and police dogs afterwards.. how did the injuries get like that?

FYI TDK has two boats not three

I call this movie a blunder cause there was no original ideas for the villians in the plot department and the characters forgot certain things.

Talia's "appearance" towards the end of the film was exactly like how Ra's Al Ghul was in BB "oh derp derp you got the wrong person buddy I am the orchestrator!"

 and Bane was like the Joker spectacularly wreaking well planned and executed havoc seemlessly. Bruce was told the circumstances regarding Bane's mask, people knew! Bane wasn't the "Legend" that climbed out but yet Bruce was foolishly adamant that Bane was Ra's love spawn even after Bane said himself after Bats turned out the lights that Batman adopted the dark but Bane didn't get to see light till he was a man... how could that be possible when the escapee was but a child? Dumb ass.

Its a good film to loosely watch, but any continuation of this movie even regarding the new guy in the cowl would be stupid, there is no tie in to comics, you pick up a comic book of Batman and you either see Bruce in the cowl or Dick or Jean Paul Valley whatever, DC doesn't just make movies they make comic books and they loved what BB and TDK did with boosting Batman comic sales... another movie would be pointless.

Srijit Ghosh
Srijit Ghosh

I think TDKR creates a perfect leeway for the series to explore the Batman Beyond series. I can imagine Gordon-Levitt's Robin John Blake pulling a Terry McGinnis. Set the next film in the dystopian future with Joker gangs plaguing the streets of Gotham and mimic the Batman Beyond costume with its signature sleekness and red chest insignia and voila! you have yourself a recipe of awesomeness. 

Muhammad Bilal Islam
Muhammad Bilal Islam

I'm right there with you, I'm glad so many other people are realizing this. So hopefully that means somebody at WB might realize this as well. I'd MUCH rather have this as opposed to a reboot. The fall out of the nuclear bomb blowing near Gotham is a perfect way to usher in all a dystopian future. 

Shane Wilmes
Shane Wilmes

anyone familiar with the Batman Beyond series?  Makes alot of sense to take this franchise in that direction considering it began with Batman Begins and TDKR ending the way it did.

 In Beyond, Wayne does return to Gotham but only serves as a guide to the new Batman as Oracle.  I think this is where they are headed.  Christopher Nolan will oversee every Batman movie ever made now, there will be no re-boots by Warner Bros, they know this series was epic and with it's huge success they will not reboot it.

Muhammad Bilal Islam
Muhammad Bilal Islam

Well Chris Nolan is for sure 100% done with Batman for the foreseeable future, and for the sake of fans and the studio WB they need to know how make great Batman films without him. Also, I don't think they will NEVER reboot, and at some point far into the future a reboot might be necessary. But I definitely don't want a reboot NOW or any time soon. They way they ended TDKR leaves so many possibilities for continuing the series with a different Batman and a new creative team (hoping for David Fincher or Darren Aronofsky to direct).

I completely agree that they should go the Batman Beyond route, or something similar. The tech featured in current Batman movies has pretty much caught up with the stuff that was in Batman Beyond, and John Blake is a very Terry McGinnis-like character. The one thing they probably won't have is Bruce Wayne acting as his mentor, since he has retired and is trying to lead a quit, peaceful life (also Christian Bale won't be returning without Christopher Nolan).

Stewart Platt
Stewart Platt

Nolan has actually made it pretty clear he's all done with Batman. 

danlunche
danlunche

Batman will return, Catwoman his girl and Robin his sidekick. Who wants to follow the exploits of a lightweight Robin?

LK312
LK312

The Batman of TDKR already had its Robin.  We just did not know it until the end.  While we might see Bruce Wayne/Batman in the next movie as a mentor, I think that the baton has been passed to Robin John Blake for the next movie.

f_galton
f_galton

It would be interesting to see what Nolan could do with the Quick Draw McGraw franchise.

Muhammad Bilal Islam
Muhammad Bilal Islam

David Fincher or Darren Aronofsky are my picks for the right people to continue the series. They can strike the right tone and have made pretty awesome movies in the past. I don't think anybody can touch Nolan but their movies are memorable in their own right.

Also, I don't really find Nolan's Batman series too dark (though it has its moments, of course) because hope always prevails in the end.

ghost919
ghost919

You are calling into question the very existence of Batman. If Batman had so much faith in the righteous citizens of Gotham, why would he exist in the first place? A caped vigilante exists because he feels the need for him to set things right, to deliver order and justice to a people incapable of doing so by themselves.

ghost919
ghost919

You're questioning the very existence of Batman in the first place. Batman never fully trusted the citizens of Gotham to take care of themselves, to make the right choices. I mean, isn't that the reason Wayne dresses up as a savior of the city? He exists because, at the end, he has to save the day. If the people of Gotham were good enough to make the right choices, they wouldn't need a masked vigilante delivering order and justice.

tammyinlalaland
tammyinlalaland

Bruce left Robin the Batcave in his will.  He was at the will reading and then picked-up the bag containing the long/lat directions to the Batcave.  When he picked-up the bag was when he learned formally that Blake was Robin.  It was the symbolic passing of the torch.

Because there was one who could protect the City, Bruce was able to go on with his life with Selina, giving them both the fresh start they desired.  He could then also give Alfred his dream as well.  

notmonday
notmonday

I really liked Blake's character and I would absolutely love to see a new movie or franchise about him, whether it's darker or not.

Punj Pokharel
Punj Pokharel

Batman didn't want Blake to be Robin and save the city. He wanted Blake to be the Batman. Thats why he showed him the cave and there was the Batsign in the police office to hint Batman will be back. Remember Batman said 'anyone can be a batman'. And when Blake was called as Robin, it a message from Batman to act as a hero now. 

BatFan11
BatFan11

I don't think that Joseph Gordon-Levitt will play Batman in the next movie. I don't think that they will bring batman back at all if they do a continuation of the Nolan style Batman films. I think that Batman's death at the end of the movie played a very important symbolic role. The scene where they reveal the Batman statue shows that they recognize that Batman sacrificed his life in order to save the city. I think that Batman sacrificing his life for the city is incredibly important to the plot. If JGL becomes Batman then that would destroy the idea of Batman as a martyr who was willing to give his life for the lives of the citizens of Gotham. The only reason that JGL would become Batman is to build off of the image that Batman created while he was alive. But by sacrificing himself in order to save the city Batman transcended the need to have a successor. Now that Batman has become a martyr he can never be killed. He is now the exact symbol that he always talked about becoming. The statue is symbolic of Batman's ascension to immortality.  As long as Batman is flesh and blood he can be killed. Now that he's sacrificed himself the Batman symbol has become immortal. If JGL were to put on the Bat cowl then I think that he would destroy all of the goodwill created by Batman making the ultimate sacrifice.  I believe that there are two possible outcomes from JGL donning the Bat cowl and they're both bad: 

1) People think that the guy in the Batman suit is the same person who they thought sacrificed himself for the city which would destroy the martyr symbol that he has become and re-mortalize Batman and once again put his power into the form of a mortal man instead of an immortal symbol. 

2) They would realize that this is a new person in the Batman suit which may still destroy his status as an immortal symbol as mentioned above and would mean that the new Batman wouldn't get all of the cred that comes along with being Batman because they know it's a new guy. He would have to start from zero in order to build his own reputation, thus destroying the motivation for becoming Batman instead of a new hero. Many posts that I've read have referenced the repeated mention that "anyone could be a Batman" within the movie as a reason that JGL will become Batman. I don't think that's what it means. I think it means that anyone can become a symbol LIKE Batman. It's the idea that Batman could be anyone. He could be your neighbor, he could be your mechanic, he could be your best friend. He could be a regular person who stepped up in order to save the city. It's not that anyone could become Batman. It's that anyone could make the choice to put on a mask and make a difference. Bale tells JGL to wear a mask to protect the people that he cares about. He doesn't tell him to wear the Batman mask. I think that he's telling him to make his own mask.For these reason I think that Nightwing is the most likely candidate for JGL to play in the next film. If they don't do Nightwing then I could see them doing a darkened version of Robin but I think that Nightwing is much more likely. In response to the idea that they won't do Nightwing because not enough people know who he is I would say that that is actually a reason that they will choose to do Nightwing. By transitioning from the hugely popular Dark Knight franchise into the Nightwing franchise they can introduce an unfamiliar character and still ride the coattails of TDK and TDKR. That would allow them to introduce a movie that seems to be based on a new character without the risk associated with starting the new franchise from scratch. Further, JGL's appearance in TDKR provides the perfect marketing campaign to make Nightwing successful because people already connect him to TDKR. The people who saw TDKR will be able to connect with JGL playing the hero in the new movie because of the way that TDKR ended; regardless of the name of the character. Imagine the poster reading: "Joseph Gordon-Levitt is NIGHTWING"

P.S. - I'd also like to address the idea that JGL has to become Batman because they repair the Bat-signal at the end of the movie. I think that this is a further extension of what I talked about above regarding the Batman statue and its symbolism of Batman's immortality. I think that the repairing of the Bat-signal shows that even though Batman is dead his symbol lives on. I imagine the city turning on the Bat-signal to display the Bat-symbol in the sky as a reminder to the people of Gotham of the hero who sacrificed himself for them. I don' t think that it is intended as an instrument to actually contact Batman. Further, it would be very easy to change the Bat-signal into a Nightwing-signal because they symbols are similar (Bat amp; Bird) and the repair of the signal may be setting up the Nightwing movie in that way. I'd also like to mention that height is another reason that I don't think that JGL will become the new Batman. There is too much of a difference between his height and build and that of Christian Bale. I think that it would be pretty obvious that it was a new guy and I don't think that he would fit the Batman look. Nightwing, on the other hand, is always depicted as smaller and leaner than Batman which makes a lot more sense for JGL's body type.

Ryan Hughes
Ryan Hughes

batman never died in the movie......... if u watched longer he was in the coffee shop still alive....

JeffreyLeonardo
JeffreyLeonardo

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sacredh
sacredh

There's also the possibility that Batman may make a return if the new Batman turns into something other than a hero. Batman vs. Batman? Tell me that wouldn't be huge box-office if it's handled right.

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Timfrk

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Muhammad Bilal Islam
Muhammad Bilal Islam

  Agreed completely, he's not gonna play Robin. He's gonna play Batman.

LK312
LK312

I think that in a de facto manner Blake has already played Robin to Bale's Batman in this film.  Blake/Robin functioned in many ways like the Robin of the DC comic books.  We just did not realize that was his role until his full name was revealed.

As someone said, when Blake picked up the bag at the reading of Bruce Wayne's will, he picked up the Batman mantel, so yeah, the next time we see Gordon-Levitt, it will be as Batman (or maybe as a new Batman in training with Bruce Wayne to mentor him further?)

Alex Michael Dandy
Alex Michael Dandy

 Or he'll be Nightwing. According to the comics, Batman seems to be dead and Robin steps up while he's gone and becomes Nightwing, who is kind of like what the author of this article describes. I think this could be a long franchise, because eventually Batman comes back.

Shane Matthew Appling
Shane Matthew Appling

Somewhere in the comics when Robin leaves Batman over a dispute, Dick Grayson goes to Metropolis and guess who tells him to change his name... Superman. Dick then names himself Nightwing. I'm really thinking they should make a Nightwing movie because they could connect the universes. O and Barbara /Batgirl's prolly around 17 or 18 by the time Blake finds the Batcave. Just saying...

Muhammad Bilal Islam
Muhammad Bilal Islam

The studio won't hinge the franchise on the Nightwing name, not enough people know about it. They will most likely have John Blake step into the bat suit. Not to mention a major theme of Batman Begins and The Dark Knight Rises is that Batman becomes symbol, so it would kinda be counterproductive to introduce a new hero instead of passing down the Batman mantle.