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Holy Bat Trivia!: Top 10 Things You Didn’t Know About Batman

In anticipation of 'The Dark Knight Rises', TIME uncovers some strange facts about the Caped Crusader

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kusum12
kusum12

Really impressed! Everything is very open and very clear clarification of issues. It contains truly information. Your website is very beneficial. Thanks for sharing.

Tim W Burke
Tim W Burke

Wook Kim: FMYates would like the return of his Batman stuff you borrowed for the article. BTW, has he told you that you are imaginary?

movierealist
movierealist

Michael Keaton definitely was easier for me to listen to, but I still wanted someone else.. Hollywood seems to love seeing an actor "pull it off", when casting for  character from a source  that is not only literature, but  VISUAL ART. Comic books are at least 50% visual, and though some of the characters are other-worldly in their appearance (both good and in a bad way),  I want those movie makers to respect the look damn it! Keaton, though I love the guy, wasn't right. They should have kept looking. Same with Tobey Maguire as Spiderman. Great actor, brought his own "interpretation" to the role that people complimented, but there isn't a whole lot to interpret, people! It's spelled right out and ILLUSTRATED in the comic! Save the personal twists and over-sappiness for some new drama; leave the decades-old, well-known super hero the way it is, the way some of us have waited all our lives to be finally seen on the big screen with big money behind it. Avengers is closest to what it should be like so far...

dirtypoolfilms
dirtypoolfilms

National Publications did not go "looking for a superhero of their own." That implies that they saw how much money the company producing Action Comics was making and wanted some of that untapped profit for themselves.

National Publications would have had no problem discovering how much money the publishers of Action Comics were making off of Superman, they were the publishers of Action Comics. They wanted another superhero of their own.

dirtypoolfilms
dirtypoolfilms

National Publications did not go "looking for a superhero of their own." That implies that they saw how much money the company producing Action Comics was making and wanted some of that untapped profit for themselves.

National Publications would have had no problem discovering how much money the publishers of Action Comics were making off of Superman, they were the publishers of Action Comics. They wanted another superhero of their own.

Max Friedenberg
Max Friedenberg

Mr Kim: Your take on Batman's belt lists but four unique utilities. You brushed against the surface and didn't even scratch it. I'll scrape the bottom of the barrel for you. In the 1960s television series I recall a "Bat Vegetable Soup Container". 

betaray100
betaray100

I hope the next Batman movies focus more on his detective side. These Nolan movies were great, but he was 100% a superhero-vigilante and NO detective at ALL. I was hoping the 3rd movie would re-invent the Riddler just for this reason, so we could get a detective movie.

nate gandt
nate gandt

They showed a lot of his detective side in the Nolan movies, In Begins when he was interrogating Cops and following the source of the drugs even before he put on the suit they showed him doing his homework how the city was running and determining good cops and bad. In the Dark Knight trying to track down the Joker, with reconstructing the bullet to get prints and following clues left by the Joker. Even setting up the marked bills to track the Mobs cash, there is a lot of detective work in the two movies I’ve seen.

RockGolf
RockGolf

Kane didn't "eventually" get recognition on all Batman stories. He insisted on it from the beginning. Kane cribbed panels, plots, and had very little to do with Batman other than taking credit. Finger is responsible for nearly every significant aspect of Bat-culture, including Robin, the utility belt, the Bat-Cave and The Joker.

Rat-Man
Rat-Man

Speaking of ripping people off, it's a crime how Stan Lee has convinced the world that he created the Marvel universe when in fact, it was Jack Kirby.  I mean, after Kirby left Marvel, Stan Lee never created any new characters at that company again.  But Jack Kirby went on to  create a whole new universe of characters at DC, all of which are still around today.  I might have a little more respect for Stan Lee if he could  do this: http://youtu.be/OvgJ6foD58Y

Eagle88
Eagle88

From this day forward as a working cartoonist... I promise.... to add in wording and clauses that will prevent what happened to Bill Finger.  It is such a greedy shame.

KB_Corkless
KB_Corkless

Here's a sample audition clip for the Batman TV series. Lyle Waggoner was the alternate lead candidate. Though more handsome than Adam West, he delivers his lines totally straight, without that earnest campiness that West got just right. I think the show would have bombed had he won the role.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

Favorite Adam West attribute: that belly paunch that bulges over his bat utility belt.

Wook Kim
Wook Kim

 Nice clip -- thanks for sharing.

Of course, while Mr. Waggoner never got a chance to play a superhero, he did play opposite one as Maj. Steve Trevor in the 'Wonder Woman' series from the 1970s.

Double Rubble
Double Rubble

I always thought Michael Keaton brilliantly portrayed the role of Batman.

Wook Kim
Wook Kim

I liked Keaton as Bruce Wayne, but -- in my opinion -- he lacked the physical presence to play the Caped Crusader.

ed harry
ed harry

Yes, when announced everyone went: WTH???  BUT, after seeing Michael Keaton's performance, the naysayers widely took it all back and loved him.  What is left out is that part.  That we generally all favor Michael Keaton over Val Kilmer's and George Clooney's portrayals.  By FAR.  Your article only mentions the negative.  And younger readers will only have that to inform them... leaving them misinformed.  That is not right.

kusum12
kusum12

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Tinwoods
Tinwoods

The obvious reasons "everyone" liked Keaton over Kilmer and Clooney was his was the first performance of the new, post-camp Batman and the other two were in terrible movies with even worse scripts.  Had Clooney been first and in a superior film, everyone would be saying he was the best Batman.

Edcedc8
Edcedc8

"8 pages of shit you already knew, peppered with some names and salaries and statistics"

Oline_Make
Oline_Make

Superman begat Batman. More specifically, it was the huge success of the

comic books featuring the mighty visitor from a distant planet that got

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brucescivally
brucescivally

As outlined in the first chapter of "Billion Dollar Batman," Bill Finger should have been credited as Batman's co-creator from the beginning, but he wasn't, and lived near destitute while Bob Kane became rich from Batman. But Finger wasn't the only one whose contributions have been largely ignored. Jerry Robinson co-created the Joker with Finger, and while Kane always received credit for the Batman artwork up until the 1960s, there was an array of "ghost" artists who did the actual work. Kane's real brilliance lay not in writing or drawing, but in self-promotion.

jaelge
jaelge

Just as Stanley Lieber or Stan Lee as we know him screwed his partner and co creator of Spiderman. Stan put it right up Jack Kirby's you know what. And then sold out to produce three terrible Sam Raimi directed flops. Thank goodness for the most current rendition. It looks like Mark Webb has saved The Amazing Spiderman, No thanks to Stan (I'll do anything for a buck) Lee.

Andre Joshua Smith
Andre Joshua Smith

Jack Kirby was not the co-creator of the Spider-Man we all know and love. Both Jack Kirby and Steven Ditko designed versions of Spider-Man. Kirby's version involved a webgun and a magic ring that turned orphan Peter Parker into a grown adult ala Captain Marvel, and Ditko's version is the web-head we know. In his life Kirby would draw Ditko's Spider-man once on the cover of Amazing Fantasy #15.

The first incident of Stan selling out would be his publication of Spider-man in Amazing Fantasy, ie his first appearance. And the Raimi films all were successful. This isn't fine art, this is corporate comics.

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TimHuynh
TimHuynh

Alfred is Wayne's butler, not just Wayne's valet.

MartinEngegren
MartinEngegren

Haha I laughed so hard at that "Wayne's valet" but yea you're right Tim. / Martin Engegren

Wook Kim
Wook Kim

It seems you fellas are thinking of a *parking valet*

According to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, a valet is "a man's male servant who performs personal services"

Alfred certainly fits that description, wouldn't you say?

epikvision
epikvision

Very useful services.  So, he's both a butler and a valet.  

f_galton
f_galton

Don't sleep on Kite Man.

Charles Pavlack
Charles Pavlack

In the second paragraph, and in your "Related Topics" links, you refer to the writer as "Bob" Finger.  In Bob Kane's quotes, and in everything else I've read over the years, including DC Comics' credits, it's "Bill" Finger.

Wook Kim
Wook Kim

I will now shuffle off to a dark corner in the Bat-cave.

Braeden Jones
Braeden Jones

"It was Kane’s writing partner—an ex-shoe salesman named Bob Finger" 

Bill Finger, you mean. 

Wook Kim
Wook Kim

 Yeeesh.  Yes, I meant 'Bill' -- it's even in the Kane quote.

As Popeye would say: "How embarraskin'!"