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Insane Anti-Obamacare Ad: Creepy Uncle Sam Wants to Probe You

In the most bananas political ad of the year to date, a patriotic relative of Chucky tries to scare young people out of wanting health insurance.

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A right-leaning group called Generation Opportunity has released what is probably the year’s most bananas set of political ads, aimed at turning young people against signing up for Obamacare. (Hat tip to Yahoo! News.) Here’s the version for the ladies:

And the one for the fellas:

1. Holy. Crap.

2. OK, in seriousness: what exactly is the substantive message of these ads? “Having health insurance sucks”? “Won’t someone save me from getting necessary medical screenings, because I might get violated by a patriotic relative of Chucky”? There are (whether you believe them persuasive or not) conservative arguments that the health care act will not work financially, or that it will worsen people’s existing coverage setups, or that it doesn’t make economic sense for the young and healthy. These ads aren’t arguing that: the apparent takeaway—besides several nights’ of puppet nightmares—is that you should actually prefer no insurance coverage or doctor visits at all.

[Update: According to TIME Nation writer Kate Pickert, that is sort of the point–for those wanting Obamacare to fail, their best hope at this point is that the young and healthy decided not to sign up in the exchanges, leaving them to the old, unhealthy, and expensive.]

3. I know conservatives hate Big Government, but wasn’t there a period in our national discourse when they preferred not to demonize beloved symbols of Americana? What’s the sequel: the Statue of Liberty asking some guy to turn his head and cough?

26 comments
TheUnderDogue
TheUnderDogue

The ACA depends on healthy young people paying in much more in premiums than they will receive in services to make the plan  work.  It collapses if young people do not sign up in droves for this really bad deal.  It's redistribution from kids just starting out to retired old folks living on pensions that the young will never see.
I just checked the Kaiser site.  I'm retired and my income and age qualify me for a $12K guvmint subsidy to help pay my mandated medical premiums.  WTF?  Who is providing that?  The kids coming up are not only getting skinned on their premiums, they're also going to pay the taxes that will get me a $1K subsidy per month.
Wow.
Sux to be them.

Major_DeVore
Major_DeVore

They should instead have had the Uncle Sam shove a trans-vaginal ultrasound probe up her *. Then it would be spot on with what the GOP has been pushing. 

sdw.196
sdw.196

Disgusting.  These people are demented. Grow a brain you idiots.

GrantParkDenizen
GrantParkDenizen

This is proof positive the Republicans and the Kochs and the Kochs' Tea Party are becoming more and more loony as time passes

asocialrecluse
asocialrecluse

A similar anti-Big Business add could be made using the Aflac duck

FabiusMaximus
FabiusMaximus

"Insane Anti-Obamacare Ad: Creepy Uncle Sam Wants to Probe You"

Says the party that came up with the daisy ad.

Anon24
Anon24

all these crazy conservatives need to get off the paranoia and anal fetish tracks and focus on improving our society

PorterEducation
PorterEducation

We should al lbe ashamed of ho we have allowed theses folks to be so explicitly racial without calling them on the carpet. These clowns do not represent the vast majority of the Amer. people and their behavior towards president Obama is shameful and they need to be called out.

TheHoobie
TheHoobie

I "love" the kicker line at the end, "Want [to watch] more Creepy Uncle Sam?" Oh, HELLS no!

I've been mystified by the conviction of Obamacare opponents that they can successfully dissuade young people from participating in it. 

As a young adult, I would have loved the ability to stay on my parents' plan until I was 26 or to have affordable insurance on my own. Just out of college, at age 22, I came down with mono, which meant I couldn't work my food-service job (which did not supply insurance) for a month. I was so lucky I had very generous roommates and that my parents sent what money they could. Took me a year to pay off the medical bills. From mono! Jeebus, what young adult *wouldn't* want insurance coverage! We were all desperate for it at the time.

fleetadmiralj
fleetadmiralj

I think the take away is this: while they aren't explicitly stating relating it, they're taking people's fears of the IRS/NSA/spying and tying it into health care. Uncle Sam will know what your wooha looks like and how well it operates - just like he knows who you're talking to at night! And the only way to avoid big bad uncle sam from knowing the status of your testicals is to not "sign up for Obamacare" (as if "Obamacare" were a service one signed up for).

Anon24
Anon24

@PorterEducation if they were in a public forum they likely wouldn't act this way...i guess it's easy to hide behind press and act like bullies

they're hurting themselves too by not wanting to improve our healthcare system 

ChrisGobin
ChrisGobin

@TheHoobieYou do know it will cost your parents a lot more money to keep you on till 26 right?  And you are aware that like millions, your parents will likely be dropped from full time employment 40 hours to part time 30 hours so their employers no longer have to give them coverage? You do know millions of non-medical professionals  (who are not required to have a criminal check) will have direct access to every bit of your once private and confidential medical info right?  And I hope you are aware even a foot doctor has extremely invasive and intrusive questions they are forced to ask you that are completely unnecessary to your reason for seeing that doctor.  You also know your Grandma is likely NOT going to be able to get that life saving hip replacement right?  And you are aware that the hospitals all throughout America have already begun laying off doctors/medical staff in the HUNDREDS, do to the costs Obamacare is having right?  Longer wait times will get much much much longer.  the list goes on and one look at the whole picture and not a few bullet points meant to sell you on something that will sink middle-class America like a titanic.

twocee
twocee

@TheHoobie Right there with you on wanting insurance in my early 20s, but I have had medical issues my whole life.  So I knew the very first thing I needed to do once I couldn't be on my parents' insurance was to find a way to get my own.


I think we're the minority for 18-30 year olds though.  Unless they've had direct experience with the medical world beyond a once-a-year physical they simply don't think insurance is necessary right now -- and it will take very little to convince them not to sign up for it.  Heck, it's not even convincing them NOT to -- it's just encouraging their natural apathy towards the subject.

To the subject at hand -- I don't even have words for how insane that ad was.

jponiewozik
jponiewozik moderator

@TheHoobie Yeah, everyone's different, but my memories of my early 20s are of being terrified I would not have insurance. Apparently I should have been more concerned about MY FREEDOM.

TheHoobie
TheHoobie

@ChrisGobin You do know that I'm (alas) far beyond age 26, that I was speaking of being a young adult as a "pre-existing condition" (as it were)? And you are aware that shifts to part-time employment have little to do with Obamacare (http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/08/two-graphs-showing-decisively-that-obamacare-is-not-creating-a-permanent-part-time-america/278887/)? You do know that patient privacy is still carefully protected under Obamacare (http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/09/obamacare-is-not-a-secret-sex-directory/279789/)? And I hope you are aware that Obamacare is already bringing health care costs, one of the biggest drivers of the deficit, down (http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2013/02/12/new-data-suggests-obamacare-is-actually-bending-the-healthcare-cost-curve/ and http://www.newrepublic.com/blog/plank/105327/cbo-obamacare-deficit-medicaid-expansion-cost-revenue-exchange)? You also know that Obamacare premiums are coming in lower than expected (http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/320369-group-finds-lower-than-expected-obamacare-premiums-in-broad-study) and that the tax subsidies in Obamacare will be a great help to working families (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/04/18/states-exchange-subsidies/2090503/)?

TheHoobie
TheHoobie

@twocee (Crap---wish I could still edit previous comments!) 

I know that our experience (and James's) with desperately wanting health insurance as young adults is anecdotal, but I have a strong suspicion that the defund-Obamacare dead-enders have greatly underestimated the intelligence and sane risk aversion of America's fine young people. :-)

TheHoobie
TheHoobie

@twocee I don't know; although I know that one big concern with Obamacare implementation is whether healthy bros will think they need insurance, all of my young-adult friends (male andfemale) knew that without insurance they were just one bike accident or thyroid nodule away from disaster....

ChrisGobin
ChrisGobin

@TheHoobie @ChrisGobin Well I am so glad those 30million now have that wonderful affordable health care they needed, whew.  Was worried that tens of millions would lose their coverage instead and be face with unprecedented price increases, taxes and ginormous deductibles....glad that didn't happen.  Next year will be better when those insurance companies raise everything even higher to combat the loses they are unconstitutionally forced to take thanks to Obama.  I am sure the worst is behind us....Oh God help us all, this is only the beginning.  The death spiral is imminent.

TheUnderDogue
TheUnderDogue

@TheHoobie @ChrisGobin Yes.  I have a fundamental moral objection to the government being in charge of ANY of it.  The IRS had no problem releasing private tax data for political purposes
http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/14/irs-sent-confidential-info-on-conservatives-to-liberal-nonprofit-propublica/
Now these same folks are going to know your T-call count and whether that penicillin shot cured your clap.
NO.  Stop right here.  I will not submit.  I will not play.  I won't pay your tax, and I will pay cash for all of my routine medical costs - I can obtain them out of country if necessary.
The government will never have my private medical data.  Never.
That is not the purpose of government.

TheHoobie
TheHoobie

@ChrisGobinThere will be transitions and changes in how care is delivered under Obamacare, sure, and some of this will seem disruptive. But: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/09/no-obamacare-isnt-the-reason-emory-is-laying-off-101-staffers/279689/ and http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/09/17/the-white-house-is-giving-2-million-health-care-workers-a-raise/

Can the law be improved? Absolutely! I'd love it if the GOP would work to help improve this law, which is the Supreme Court--approved law of the land, rather than trying to sabotage it at every turn. I'm still mystified as to what is so terrifying about the law to its opponents.

Is it that you have a fundamental moral objection to helping 30 million people obtain affordable health insurance, helping improve individual and public health, and preventing people from going bankrupt because of medical bills, or that you think you have a better solution to those problems? If it's the latter, I'd like to hear it.

ChrisGobin
ChrisGobin

@TheHoobie @ChrisGobin Also please keep in mind, the govt, banks and major corporations get hacked almost daily.  Now this unprecedented collection of private personal info is in a one stop shop for hackers. In an age where people identities are stolen all the time. 

ChrisGobin
ChrisGobin

@TheHoobie @ChrisGobinMEDICAL LAYOFFS:

-World renowned "Cleveland clinic" has to decrease costs by $330Million by 2014= Massive layoffs of thousands of employees including Doctors. Because of Obamacare. -Liberty Hospital lays off 129 employees -Vanderbilt Hospital lays off 1,000 employees -Emory Healthcare lays off over 100 employees 
Get the picture? Less Doctors and health care pros = longer wait times and a decrease in overall quality of help
Whats the point of cheap insurance if you die or symptoms worsen while waiting forever to see a doctor?

ChrisGobin
ChrisGobin

@TheHoobie @ChrisGobin-Try to tell me Doctor patient privilege exists still -"The Federal Data Services Hub, which will be used to implement the health cover program, is set to be an unprecedented consolidation of Americans' private information.""Thousands of people in the government and associated groups will be granted access to a system that the Obama administration promises is secure" *Community and consumer-focused nonprofit groups' will be given access to the database*WHERE is my Patient Doctor privilege again? Considering it is NOT just between me and my Doctor anymore now is it?.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2372842/Obamacare-database-gather-unprecedented-levels-personal-information-citizens.html-"The Navigators"  with only 20 hours of training and NO background checks- are going to be asking for all your personal, financial and health information.  Just think of the criminal abuse that will certainly find it's way into this.