- Pulp Friction
- 1942: ‘Citizen Kane’ vs. ‘How Green Was My Valley’
- 1953: ‘High Noon’ vs. ‘The Greatest Show on Earth’
- 1968: ‘The Graduate’ et al. vs. ‘In The Heat of the Night’
- 1977: ‘All the President’s Men’ et al vs. ‘Rocky’
- 1991: ‘Goodfellas’ vs. ‘Dances With Wolves’
- 1995: ‘Pulp Fiction’ vs. ‘Forrest Gump’
- 1999: ‘Saving Private Ryan’ vs. ‘Shakespeare in Love’
- 2006: ‘Crash’ vs. ‘Brokeback Mountain’
- 2010: ‘The Hurt Locker’ vs. ‘Avatar’
- 2011: ‘The King’s Speech’ vs. ‘The Social Network’
Simply ask yourself and friends, "Do you remember "Goodfellas" the movie or " Dancing with Wolves"? The answer would be more telling in US/Western pop culture than some stupid Award.
I'll take Costner's noble natives over Scorsese's mopey mobsters any day. Dances with Wolves was clearly superior to Goodfellas.
Politics should never be involved when choosing a winner for these awards.. American sniper should have won in a landslide over birdman for most of the nominations it was up for... Not nominating Clint Eastwood for best director of American sniper because he spoke at the republican convention is dispicable...the leftist Hollywood liberals make me wanna puke sometimes...American sniper will probably gross 400 million dollars before it is taken out of theaters...the next closest is probably not even 40 million dollars.
@BillAdams1 Did you actually watch the movie you're talking about? Clint Eastwood is a good director and I'll watch anything he has a hand in. But, I have to say that American Sniper is a rather low point for Eastwood and big disappointment. Was just not a very well put together or thoughtful or even an engaging movie.
They should have stayed more true to the book, but even then the book wasn't so great as well.
Have you actually seen Birdman? That's something rather unique and original. And even though it could be considered crazy, its really well put together and highly engaging. You walk out of the theater and are trying to wrap your head around what you just saw, you have a sense of surrealism and don't wish to return to your reality. Most of Eastwoods movies are like that, unfortunately for American Sniper that's not the case.
And no, I didn't bring politics into this. I'm judging the movie, not Chris Kyle.
Why can't we debate the topics, issues and people. Instead, always with the politics....No one and I mean no one is going to "discipline" Eastwood for talking to the Republicans.
And the amount of money a movie grosses has no bearing on how good it is. Unless you're saying the twilight series, marvel universe, transformers and etc should deserve best picture or best director?
On that note, Bloomberg is insanely rich. Should that make him president??. ..please no...hope we can at least agree on that.
#9 2006 - Brokeback vs. Crash - A Case of Revisionist History!
Where was it claimed -- ever, let a lone "often" -- that Ledger won the Best Actor award as consolation for Brokeback instead of his performance as The Joker?
Yes, Ledger was definitely lauded for his performance in Brokeback. I even thought criticisms of a "mumbling" performance (google that for laughs) were unfounded.
However, he was *highly* praised for his role as The Joker in The Dark Knight, and most definitely won the Best Actor award on the merits of that performance alone. Yes, I'm sure his death tilted the vote in his favor, but you'd be on shaky ground to claim he didn't deserve the win. And equally shaky to claim the win was a consolation for a *different* performance.
Yet, this revisionist idea (built on fallacy and totally lacking citation) that his award "is often considered" (the fallacy, considered by who? when? often means how much, twice?) a consolation for Brokeback has no merit whatsoever. Not only could I not locate a single reference to back such a silly claim (nor did I hear any such statement at the time of the award), but I found near-universal praise for The Joker performance. As should be expected!
Of lesser import, I'm not sure how Brokeback is a "staple" on cable. Again, total lack of citation. It did its standard run on HBO and Cinemax in 2006 and 2007 alongside classics like Running Scared (I have full HD broadcast listings for those years), but after that, how often has it appeared on cable? More often than any other movie? Where is the citation to even *suggest* your claim of a "staple"? TV Guide shows no listing for the coming weeks. And yet, Netflix themselves *verifiably* claims its competitor (and victor) is a top rental.
Everybody knew that Brokeback Mountain was the Best Motion Picture of the year even those who voted for Crash.
There were also the showdowns between "The Wizard of Oz" and "Gone With The Wind" (one of the only films that could have beaten "Wizard of Oz" was, indeed, the Southern epic) and the dispute over "Star Wars" and "Annie Hall" (which, according to legend, director Woody Allen refused to accept because he thought that even though he won, he wanted the Academy to explain to him how two such radically different films could be compared on anything more than technical merit.)
Where I'm going, you can't follow. What I've got to do, you can't be any part of. Ilsa, I'm no good at being noble, but it doesn't take much to see that the problems of three little people don't amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world. Someday you'll understand that."
One of the last good movies I saw.
While The King's Speech is indeed more worthy than the slightly better than avarage The Social Network, neither was as strong as Inception, Black Swan or Biutiful for that matter.
"The Academy" is spoken of as if it were a monolithic entity, but I thought it was made up of individuals, voting in various categories.
Perhaps it might be more interesting to have some intervierws with various members and ask them their rationales for voting as they did, rather than make assumptions about the outcomes.
Zero Dark Thirty has no business to be even nominated. It is accessible propaganda, and there is no affirmation what so anytime that (you apperceive who AKA that whose name we do not say) was anytime captured and killed. That "put to sea" nonsense is a smoker gun.
Isn’t it amazing how many award ceremonies these hollywood and singer types keep giving themselves. If they’re so concerned about the poor and the country how about forget all the pomp and circumstance and donate all the money spent on awards, gifts and apparel to the needy and the deficit. Quit patting each other on the back and do something meaningful after all your just actors and singers living the high life already.
Shakespeare in Love, for me, is one of the best winners ever - smart, witty romantic comedy, that is fictional but still more about Shakespeare and his work (and time and society in which he lived and worked) than most biopics, it's also more romantic and funnier than most romcoms. also it can be viewed as showbiz satire. Saving Private Ryan is great too, mostly for that opening battle scene, but the rest of the movie is disappointing. people say it's more important film but why is a WWII movie made more than 50 years and hundreds of other WWII movies later important, especially given that the story about searching for Ryan to bring him back to his mom is quite silly. people attribute SIL win to Weinstein's campaign, but maybe Academy members just couldn't choose among three WWII movies. I mean Weinstein (or anyone else) can campaign all he/they want, but Academy will vote for they want. why would they listen to Harvey? he may offer work to younger members in change for vote, but what about the majority of retired members?
whenever i stumble across shawshank on cable, i watch it. same with the king's speech and all the presidents men. never forrest gump, never the social network. pulp fiction is not something i will stop and watch, either. i liked all of them, but that's my personal standard.
Zero Dark Thirty has no business to be even nominated. It is
obvious propaganda, and there is no evidence what so ever that (you know
who AKA that whose name we do not say) was ever captured and killed. That "put to sea" nonsense is a smoking gun.
I agree, and still think Heath Ledger was robbed of the Oscar in Brokeback Mountain. I loved his performance in that film. It makes me cry to this day.
What about 1979: "Kramer vs. Kramer" over "Apocalypse Now"? And like "Rocky", all four of the films it beat were better than "Forrest Gump" in 1995.
Don't watch Oscar: too political and too Hollywood. Quentin Tarantino has no business making movies. Collin Firth deserves an award for almost every movie he makes. Avatar is nothing but an old Western - the cowboy befriending the Indians - with special effects.
Shakespeare and Speech DESERVED their best pictures awards. Yeah, where is Shawshank? Spielberg has run out of creative juices. None of this is that important.
The funniest thing about the SPR vs TRL vs SIL controversy is that 'Life is Beautiful' blew them all out of the water. But then it's a foreign film, so it can't be 'best picture' ?!
The funny thing is that the controversy was Saving Private Ryan against The Thin Red Line. Shakespeare in Love was a left field winner and the reason that I stopped watching the Oscars.
I'm so tired of the Saving Private Ryan crowd complaining about the loss. Shakespeare in Love is a far superior film and SPR should have been happy to be nominated in the same league.