Dark Knight Rises Tops Box Office Again: What ‘Aurora Effect’?

Don't believe the doomsday hype about audiences frightened to go to the movies. If they stayed home on Friday, it was only to watch the Olympic spectacular

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The problem with American moviegoers is that they pay no attention to the pundit-and-pollster class that tells ordinary people what they ought to think and do.

Case in point: the so-called Aurora effect on this week’s moviegoing.

Boston Globe movie editor Janice Page, linking movie gore with the Aurora, Colo., slayings, said on the public-radio news show For Your Ears Only that Hollywood should “look at ways that we could be more responsible and pull back from the violence.” Harvey Weinstein of the Weinstein Co., distributor of Halloween II, Piranha 3DD and Scream 4, suggested a movie summit in which “all of us who deal in violence in movies [would] discuss our role in that.” And the NRG Research Group (short for Nordic Research Group) got a lot of attention with a poll, cited a few days ago by Nikki Finke in her Deadline Hollywood column, purporting to show “that 20%-25% of the domestic moviegoing audience was still very hesitant to go this weekend because of the Colorado theater shooting.”

(MORE: How the Aurora Killings Shattered Movie Fantasy)

Instead, movie attendance in the past 10 days has followed utterly predictable paths: people came out to see the big blockbuster (The Dark Knight Rises) and some of their older favorites (Ice Age: Continental DriftTed, The Amazing Spider-Man and Brave), avoided the turkeys delivered this weekend (The Watch and Step Up Revolution) and stayed home Friday night to watch the movie-like spectacle that opened the London Olympics.

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The Dark Knight Rises (TDKR) again won the weekend at North American theaters, according to preliminary studio estimates, with $64.1 million. That 60% dip from the $160.1 million it amassed on its opening weekend is sharper than the 52.5% falloff suffered by its 2008 predecessor, The Dark Knight, but softer than the 72% second-weekend drop of another final episode in a popular movie series, last summer’s Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2. After 10 days, TDKR has earned $289.1 million — again, less than The Dark Knight’s $313.8 million in the same period but more than the Potter finale’s $273.5 million. TDKR can boast the third all-time highest 10-day domestic gross, after The Avengers and The Dark Knight.

(MORE: Corliss’s Review of The Dark Knight Rises)

Last week, many news sources reported that the Aurora massacre had scared away moviegoers. Wrong: attendance, according to Box Office Mojo, was 40% higher last weekend than the previous weekend ($231.3 million to $165 million) and up 21% from same weekend last year (when the total take was $190.6 million).

This weekend, total box-office revenue ($134.8 million) was indeed down from the same weekend last year ($179.7 million), when the new films were Cowboys & Aliens, with a $36.4 million three-day take, The Smurfs, with $35.6 million, and Crazy, Stupid, Love., with $19.1 million. The drop is almost entirely due to two related factors that have no connection to the shootings. One: Olympics coverage began with a splendid show Friday night; and two, Hollywood, knowing the Games were coming, released fewer films this weekend.

(MORE: Review of the Olympic Opening Ceremony)

Oscar-winning director Danny Boyle’s lavish tribute to Britain and British movies (with Her Majesty the Queen and James Bond, or their stunt doubles, parachuting into the stadium — was viewed by 40.7 million Americans, a record audience for an Olympic opening ceremony, which naturally dented the box-office numbers. Saturday, though, TDKR bounced back, with a 39.5% improvement over Friday’s tally. Ice Age, Ted, Spider-Man and Brave were all up more than 30%. Audiences didn’t stay away out of fear; they stayed home to see a bigger, better show for free.

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The true weekend of comparison is not last year at this time but the weekend of Aug. 8–10, 2008, when the Beijing Olympics began. Then as now, box-office take ($121.6 million) sagged more than 20% from the revenue of the previous weekend ($153.1 million). Then as now, the two new movies were an R-rated comedy co-written by Seth Rogen (Pineapple Express instead of The Watch) and a sequel aimed at young females (The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants 2 instead of Step Up 4). And then as now, a Christopher Nolan Batman epic, The Dark Knight, held on to the No. 1 spot — and enjoyed the same 39% bump from Friday to Saturday.

(MORE: Surviving the Darkest Night in U.S. Moviegoing History)

The Dark Knight would go on to become the fourth movie in history to earn more than $1 billion worldwide. Will The Dark Knight Rises reach the billion-dollar mark? Time will tell, but after 10 days it’s more than halfway there. Its $248.2 million foreign gross, added to the $289.1 million in North America, adds up to $537.3 million. That’s not bad for a movie that a lot of people were supposedly afraid to see.

(MORE: Behind the Scenes of the Batman Trilogy)

As for The Watch and Step Up Revolution, people wanted to see movies this weekend, just not those movies. The tale of four guys protecting their neighborhood from an outer-space invasion, The Watch earned only $13 million and garnered a CinemaScore grade of C-plus. For star Ben Stiller, The Watch marked his lowest debut in a widely released film since The Heartbreak Kid five years ago. For co-star Vince Vaughn, it was his worst opening of this millennium and the lowest since he played Norman Bates in the 1998 remake of Psycho. The demographic breakdown was 60% male, 60% over the age of 25, but not enough of either group to make a difference.

(MORE: Corliss’s Review of The Watch)

The demographics for Step Up Revolution were The Watch’s mirror image: 64% of the audience was female, 71% under the age of 24; they gave the movie an indulgent B-plus. This latest entry in the dance-movie series that launched Channing Tatum to stardom took in $11.8 million this weekend, less than any of the first three installments. But as the total North American gross for the Step Up films has gradually declined (from $65.3 million to $58 million to $42.4 million), the foreign earnings have ballooned (from $48.9 million to $92.8 million to $116.9 million). Summit, the franchise’s distributor, wouldn’t mind if that trend continued.

(MORE: A Review of Channing Tatum’s Breakout Hit, Dear John)

In indie releases, the romantic comedy Ruby Sparks opened in 13 venues to a so-so $151,881. Killer Joe, the NC-17-rated drama starring Matthew McConaughey as an assassin cop who toys with a family of lowlifes, earned a similarly mediocre $37,864 in three theaters. Beasts of the Southern Wild expanded to 194 theaters and amassed an Olympics-defying $512,000; the five-week total for this acclaimed no-star dramatic fantasy is $4.8 million.

Here are the Sunday estimates of this weekend’s top-grossing pictures in North American theaters, as reported by Box Office Mojo:

1. The Dark Knight Rises, $64.1 million; $289.1 million, second week
2. Ice Age: Continental Drift, $13.3 million; $114.9 million, third week
3. The Watch, $13 million, first weekend
4. Step Up Revolution, $11.8 million, first week
5. Ted, $7.4 million; $193.6 million, fifth week
6. The Amazing Spider-Man, $6.8 million; $242.1 million, fourth week
7. Brave, $4.2 million; $217.3 million, sixth week
8. Magic Mike, $2.6 million; $107.6 million, fifth week
9. Savages, $1.8 million; $43.9 million, fourth week
10. Moonrise Kingdom, $1.4 million; $38.4 million, 10th week

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cerenzeytinoglu
cerenzeytinoglu

every day a new thing about the ''gunman'' comes out.  whether the news is he ''was a drop our PhD student'' or he ''was in therapy'' he definitly is more trending than the film itself - which seems like the exact thing he wanted to do.  the need to attach psychopathic disorders of individuals to societal problems is not new but this time it looks doltish.  by the way calling a serial killer who took lives of 12 people ''gunman'' makes me think that the term ''terrorist'' is only used for people from a specific part of the world..

Reythia
Reythia

Maybe most people realized that a gun-toting crazy dude who wants to kill a lot of people is going to do it, and that the movie was an excuse, not a reason.

thefilmauthority
thefilmauthority

Corliss is way off the mark here apart from his analysis of foreign box office.   

The Colorado shootings had a huge negative effect on the box office the weekend following the shootings.  "The Dark Knight Rises" earned $30.6 million in its midnight screenings, and those midnight screenings were before people knew the shootings had occurred. That amount is greater than the $18.7 million earned by "The Avengers," a highly-anticipated film, and greater than the $18.5 million earned by the original "The Dark Knight" at its midnight screenings. However, after people learned about the shootings, "Rises" suddenly fell behind the pace of the original "Dark Knight" when it was out-pacing it. As a general rule, audiences don't tend to get incredibly excited about a film, cram theaters full for midnight screenings, and then suddenly get bored about the same film the next day.

There was clear fall off for "Rises" after that huge $30.6 million midnight opening. That Friday, the first day after the shootings, "Rises" earned $45.2 million vs. the $48.7 million earned by "The Dark Knight" on its first Friday (excluding midnight box office); on Saturday, "Rises" earned $44.9 million vs. $47.7 

million earned by "The Dark Knight" on its first Saturday; and on Sunday, "Rises" earned $40.2 million vs. $43.6 

million earned by "The Dark Knight." These numbers also don't reflect ticket price inflation. The difference in attendance between the two would been even more stark. The drop in box office also can't be explained by bad word-of-mouth since "Rises" received an "A" by the cinemascore poll of that weekend's audience, and it has 9.0 rating on IMdB, placing it 10th all-time.

Because of the length of "The Dark Knight Rises" and its lack of premium 3-D ticket pricing, "Rises" may not have been able to match the $207 million dollar opening weekend box office of "The Avengers," but it is clear that had the shooting not occurred, "Rises" would have far out-earned "The Dark Knight," and it would have come close to matching the box office of "The Avengers," and probably beaten "The Avengers" in actual attendance.  

In fact, there was an undeniable negative effect on the entire box office the weekend right after the shootings occurred.  

"The Amazing Spider-Man" had been holding onto its audience at a very strong rate before the shootings occurred. It earned $34.7 million the weekend before the shootings, but the day after the shootings, its weekend take fell to$10.9 million, earning only 31.4% of its previous weekend. The box-office of films drop at a predictable rate. A drop like this is unheard of.  

"The Amazing Spider-Man" earned $62 million in its first weekend. In its 2nd weekend, it fell to $34.7 million (earning 60% of the gross from the weekend before). In the 3rd weekend, which fell right after the shootings, it earned just $10.9 million (31.4% of the weekend before), and in its 4th weekend, it recovered, earning $6.8 million (62.4% of the weekend before). In fact, the entire top 10 saw larger than normal drops from the previous weekend.

So, it seems pretty clear that people simply wanted to stay away from the theaters that first weekend after the shootings, but that the effect of the shootings on attendance was short-lived.  However, since a film's first weekend's  box office 

to a large extent determines how much a film will earn in its following weeks and it makes up such a large amount of its entire gross, the box office of "The Dark Knight Rises" has clearly taken a hit that it won't recover from.  Of course, it will still make a gobs money, just not the gobs it would have.  

Charley Vu
Charley Vu

RJ Budler - go to places like Front Sight, Bill Rogers' Reactive Shooting School in Georgia, Magpul Dynamics, Suarez International, Costa Ludus, Southnarc ECQC, Haley Strategic (especially the Disruptive Environments course run by Travis Haley which could have really helped out with this unfortunate theater situation, being that this course is also run in low-light)

Charley Vu
Charley Vu

Oh hey Time Magazine, thanks for removing my comment that doesn't fall in line with your beliefs!

I carried two Glock 19s to the midnight premiere and everything was fine.

But you gotta admit you still have to train f_galton - accidental shootings should be prevented at all costs and obviously should not be taken lightly!

thefilmauthority
thefilmauthority

Corliss is just plain wrong.

"The Dark Knight Rises" was on its way to easily surpass the box office of "The Dark Knight."  "Rises" earned $30.6 million at its midnight showings. That's more than "The Avengers" midnight showing ($18.7 million), which was a highly anticipated film, and it's more than the midnight showing of the original "Dark Knight" ($18.5 million). However, despite its exceptional midnight screening haul, the box office for the rest of weekend for "Rises" fell behind the box office of "The Dark Knight."  Not including midnight screenings, "Rises" brought in $45.1 million Friday vs. $48.7 million for "The Dark Knight," $44.9  million Saturday 

vs. $47.7 million for "The Dark Knight," $40.2 million Sunday 

vs. $43.6 million for "The Dark Knight." Moreover, ticket prices were cheaper four years ago. Adjusting for inflation makes the discrepancy even more stark.  

So, unless there was a substantial negative effect of the shooting, why else would "Rises" fall behind "The Dark Knight" when  more people went to see the midnight showing? People don't get incredibly excited to see a film one day and then all of sudden get bored with the same film the next.  It was clear that "Rises" would have surpassed the regular weekend box office (midnight screenings excluded) of "The Dark Knight" had the shooting not occurred.  Because of the long running time of the film and its lack of premium 3-D tickets, the "Rises" may not have caught "The Avengers," but looking at the midnight screenings as an indicator, the numbers would have been close.

In fact, the box office of ALL the other films suffered immediately after the shootings.  

"The Amazing Spider-Man" was holding audience strongly, but it suddenly dropped from $34.6 million the weekend before the shooting to $10.9 million the weekend the day after the shooting. That means the weekend after the shooting "The Amazing Spider-Man" only had 32% of the attendance that it had the weekend before, yet the weekend before that, it held 55% of its audience, and last week it held 62% of its audience.  Films lose audience in a predictable pattern, and that type of drop is unheard of.  

Here are the box-office results for "The Amazing Spider-man" starting with its first weekend:  1st) $62 million; 2nd) $34.6 million (55% of the weekend before); 3rd) $10.9 million (32% of the weekend before); 4th) $6.8 million (62% of the weekend before).  There was a clear drop off that 3rd weekend that fell the day after the shooting. 

In fact, every film in the top 10 saw a similar drop off to that experienced by "The Amazing Spider-Man." It seems people just wanted to stay away from the movie theaters during that weekend right after the shootings.

The next weekend seems to have pretty much returned to the normal box office patterns, but because the initial weekend of a film plays such an important role in determining the box office of a film during its subsequent weeks, it is clear that "The Dark Knight Rises" suffered a hit from which it will not totally recover. 

It is true that the shooting does not seem to have had the same effect on box office overseas as it had here.

Of course, "The Dark Knight Rises" will still make gobs of money, but if the shooting had not occurred, it would have made even more gobs of money.

Judy Harrigan
Judy Harrigan

Crass article considering the families have been burying their dead all last week.  Couldn't you have waited on this?

MLB
MLB

It's only Colorado, they're used to mass killings by now, no point putting the news on hold just for this hole of a state.

MLB
MLB

We're not gonna let some Colorado nutjobs deter us from doing what we want to do, let  them kill each other, the rest of us can go about our lives.

darknesscrown
darknesscrown

"The problem with American moviegoers is that they pay no attention to the pundit-and-pollster class that tells ordinary people what they ought to think and do."  ----  Start the article out with a bit of comedy.  That's good.  Is that statement a joke?  Americans haven't thought for themselves in 50 years.

194919671982
194919671982

I feel sorry for the friends and families of the victims, if they browse news sites on the internet, and are subjected to stories comparing profit to the potential fear caused by senseless acts that killed and injured their loved ones.

StevenJB
StevenJB

We saw it on July 27th:  Batman Rises---Dark Knight, whatever. I saw it

with my son, Jimmy and his buxomy gal, Ericka; he in his low-riding

trousers and sports jersey, she in her Daisy Mae costume. There were about a

dozen people in the theater.

It should have been a gala, summertime event. James and I had seen the first

two Bale versions in theaters and as recently as Independence Day, we talked

about having to fight the crowds at the ticket and popcorn lines. We were 5

minutes late for the start of the previews and the parking lot was nearly

empty. Inside, we were the only patrons, the only patrons buying tickets

and treats. The employee's avoided eye contact, spoke in low volume, clipped

sentences, and had a 'Move it along. Nothing to see here,’ attitude.

I had wondered if we should go. I called James a couple days before and asked

for his opinion. Out of respect for the fallen, did he think we should stay

home? I could almost hear him beating his chest in grand, I am adolescent and

omnipotent style, but I had sleep disturbances on several nights before the

event, flashbacks to an incident in Vietnam where someone tossed a grenade onto

a dance floor. You'd think the images would fade. I don't remember any of the

previews. We had taken our seats about half-way up and selected three nearest

the aisle, I feeling a bit like the parents slowly wading into the water with

their kids in the movie, Jaws. 

It took awhile, but I was able to forget my worries and fall into the film; it

was that good! Billion dollar sequel good! A few of the audience members,

myself included, even spurted out audible "ooh's and ahh's", and in

the end, I could not figure out how the film could possibly have been connected

with the tragic incident in Aurora, Colorado. There is a great disconnect for

me. How do you go from point-A to point-blank? I was no longer horrified but

dumb-founded. How? Why?

On the way out of the theater, a teen-aged employee wearing

a blue vest and holding a carpet sweeper before him like a Minuteman stood

nervously at the door. "Thank you, sir," I said as my eyes adjusted

to the light. "Good movie." Afternoon temperatures were cooler than

the day before. I wondered how I would get the butter stains out of my shirt,

but knew that I could.

 

BenVeritas
BenVeritas

They stayed home because the film is a medicore and labored effort to conclude a mildly entertaining series.

Kyle Maxwell
Kyle Maxwell

Actually, we're staying home because "Dark Knight Rises" is awful.  No amount of fanboy whining can turn a bad movie into a good one.  Sure, it'll do ok, because a certain amount of people will go regardless.  But as word of mouth spreads, box office sales are dropping off.  Also, there we be almost NO repeat viewers, as there have been for other summer blockbusters.  We learned from "Matrix Revolutions" and "The Phantom Menace" that people will, in fact, defend a lousy movie, but they won't provide the kind of repeat sales necessary to give a movie legs at the box office.

Melissa Weidenborner
Melissa Weidenborner

"The so-called Aurora" effect? This writer is so insensitive. People DIED! Stop making it about a movie being released! Some sick bastard killed and hurt innocent people. I don't think people should live in fear from that event, but it doesn't change the fact that those victims deserve respect- they don't deserve to be a fucking line or two in a MOVIE review. 

Charley Vu
Charley Vu

Don't let a terrorist, or an active shooter win!

This is America.  We can take it.

Although we had the weirdo TSA sprout up in our airports, it didn't diminish our fear of flying.

We still gathered for public events without fear.

And we will continue to do so.

Charley Vu
Charley Vu

If you're shot in one arm, you may not be able to manipulate your own weapon with that hand effectively, or you may drop the gun...

or your first weapon malfunctions...Other than you not getting it (I personally don't either), but it's not stupid by any means.

Peter Grenader
Peter Grenader

I don't have a clue what you're talking about here.

Charley Vu
Charley Vu

f_galton's carrying of multiple weaponry is perfectly reasonable for the reasons I described above.

Eagle88
Eagle88

Is anyone asking the big question yet about how the Aurora horrific murders could have been prevented?  The Exit Door was not alarmed.  Shouldn't the Exit Door be alarmed with one of those annoying squealing sirens?  The alleged murderer just propped the door open to exit and later enter.  If it was alarmed, he would have been startled.  The main office of the theatre notified.  Maybe this would not ever have happened.  You can't tell movie producers to make less violent movies.  But we can support ways to make a multiplex movie theatre safer.

Michael Rush
Michael Rush

Yes I like how you give hard numbers to prove how dumb a lot of "journalists" are....well done.

66Trey
66Trey

Americans won't let a shooting stop them.   They find a movie much more worthy of their attention.  Nothing stops the typical American straight male.  The same applies to their voting habits.  Don't try to put the "pro-gay" president back in the White House just yet.

66Trey
66Trey

We can expect more violence it gay marriage is approved.  It's too much of a shock to our American way of life.  I fear for what could take place.  Who could have imagined Aurora?   It is not something to be taken lightly.  It is a major change to our society.

Tinwoods
Tinwoods

Most Ridiculous Comment of the Day award.  Congratulations.

Peter Grenader
Peter Grenader

I second that.   The polarization of values within this country is bizarre.  My take:  If you are not gay, what in the hell difference does it make what other people do.  Is it really a biblical issue or does this all boil down to the moment your kid asks what it's all about and the parent being to phobic to give a good answer?  Is immoral unless it's two babes in a magazine spread then it's hot, right?  

DrPoopenstein
DrPoopenstein

Seems that lots of typical American males get stopped by bullets ;)

66Trey
66Trey

And high school students, and college students and movie theater patrons, but are the shooters "typical" American lunatics?

Zia24
Zia24

In defense of f-galton, I am always armed, so when I went to see the movie, of course I had a handgun in my purse.  A handgun that I haven't fired in over a year.

phijef
phijef

Yeah that's ok and all, but come on.  4 guns?  That's just being stupid.

Garden_Salsa
Garden_Salsa

When I  saw this headline, I thought it was referring to the Aurora Borealis and I was thinking, "did some kind of large magnetic storm happen this weekend? Why would if affect my movie going experience?"

Guest
Guest

I will wait for it's release on DVD unless I forget first. 

FrederickK
FrederickK

Smart. The movie isn't worth the ticket price. It doesn't hold a candle to the first two.

Gary Wilson
Gary Wilson

Batman movies are too dark, too sick.  The one with Heath Ledger was sick.  Why can't we have nice movies?

phijef
phijef

I heard Brave was a nice movie.  Go see that.

Sam
Sam

because we don't live in a nice world.  If  you want naive, innocent, unicorns farting rainbow movies stick to disney.

Jessica Lackey
Jessica Lackey

I do not feel liike going to see that movie because of copycats. At least not until I get my handgun!

Yoshi_1
Yoshi_1

With the average attention span down to what, three

 to five minutes ? Maybe if the whole town was razed it would get a few more hours.....

f_galton
f_galton

I went to it two days ago. A pair of Glock 21's in a shoulder rig, a Samp;W Governor on my hip, and a Springfield XDM compact in an ankle holster went with me. No problems at all except for them running out of Milk Duds at the concession stand which was a bummer.

Kyle Maxwell
Kyle Maxwell

 You realize that you're the exact kind of sociopath as the Aurora Killer, right?

f_galton
f_galton

You realize that psychology class you took at junior college does not make you an expert.

Charley Vu
Charley Vu

Sam, how exactly is F_galton is feeding the problem by carrying lots of weaponry?

Charley Vu
Charley Vu

I went to the midnight premiere with two Glock 19s.

I don't see what was wrong with his choice of weaponry.  Although I do wonder how exactly did you train to deploy all of them in sequence.

Accidental shootings are NOT to be taken lightly, that's why you train.  At least you could have said something about your training schedule - I go to the range twice a month and take force-on-force classes once a month or once every two months.

Majestyk Watch
Majestyk Watch

And what's going to happen when you shoot the wrong people in the theater, trying the defend yourself?   It's people like this that scare me 10 x more than the few random nut-bars.

R.j. Budler
R.j. Budler

 I have to agree with Galton. I'm not for anyone getting shot, but I am for the right to have the ability to shoot back. I'd prefer feeling like I'm in a "shoot out", over feeling like a "fish in a barrel".

jessec829
jessec829

Unless in the hands of a trained, cool-headed professional, I don't think adding more guns to any scenario is a good idea.

f_galton
f_galton

In extreme circumstances a certain amount of collateral damage is to be expected. You have to look at the net.

Tinwoods
Tinwoods

You are one sick...

You okay if your mom or sister was part of that "collateral damage"?  No, of course not.  

f_galton
f_galton

It would be difficult to accidentally shoot eight people. One or two, maybe, but not eight.

happydayfortennis
happydayfortennis

You're insane if you think of accidental shootings as "collateral damage." Murder is murder, no matter how you look at it. You're not the hero you think you are. In your fantasy world, an armed killer is going to appear out of nowhere, and you're going to be the one who saves the world. And accidentally shoot eight other people, but hey a certain amount of collateral damage is to be expected.

phijef
phijef

Douche.  Seriously, what are you overcompensating for?  In what scenario would you need 4 guns?  

Gary Wilson
Gary Wilson

A-hole

Zia24
Zia24

Why is he an A-hole? He's obviously just trolling, or nuts.  I saw the movie armed, I almost always have a handgun in my purse. Now, if I had to defend myself it would be more effective hitting someone over the head with my purse than taking the gun out, cocking and aiming.

I see a gun as a tool, like a nail file or stapler. People need to get over this crazy fear "amg guns this woman must be crazy".

f_galton
f_galton

It's called being prepared.

R.j. Budler
R.j. Budler

 Where does a civilian get this training of which you speak? I only shoot at gun ranges and only about once every two months... so, you're right, I'm not very good with a handgun (I live in Illinois, so I can't carry anyway...but): where does one learn to be better with a handgun? To be able to use it with the restraint and precision of a police officer? [Please note I said I'm a civilian, I'm not joining the Army for basic handgun training]

Tinwoods
Tinwoods

I know a several idiots with concealed weapon permits and not one of them has ever drawn a weapon with the intent to use it outside of a gun range.  None are law enforcement officers, none have ever seen combat in the military.  None have any combat handgun training.  You sound like one of them (except way over-compensating for something by carrying FOUR handguns).  What kind of training (or, better, experience) do you have? 

f_galton
f_galton

I've got a Concealed Carry Permit, so it's perfectly acceptable. What should not be acceptable is running out of Milk Duds.

Sam
Sam

its called feeding the problem...you had as many guns as the shooter did.  In what world should that be acceptable at a movie theater?