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Olbermann Jousts Koppel in Battle of High Horses

The Germans should have invented a word that’s like “schadenfreude,” but describing the feeling that comes when someone expresses something in a such a way that you feel vaguely uncomfortable agreeing with them. Schaden-noddin’, maybe?

Whatever the word, it would roughly describe what I felt last night as Keith Olbermann made some  convincing points in a Special Comment that furiously (and sanctimoniously) rebutted Ted Koppel‘s passionate (and sanctimonious) bemoaning of  opinion in TV news today.

First, the background. After Olbermann’s suspension for donating money to three Democratic candidates in the midterm elections, Koppel wrote an op-ed for the Washington Post citing Olbermann and the incident as an example of everything that was wrong with cable news today.

Viewers, he argued, were being ill-served by opinionated hosts—Olbermann, Rachel Maddow and Chris Matthews at MSNBC, Glenn Beck, Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity at Fox News—who deliver news selected to flatter their audience’s worldview: “the world not as it is, but as partisans (and loyal viewers) at either end of the political spectrum would like it to be.” They are able to do so, Koppel argued, because their shows make a lot of money, which in turn leads back to what is in his view the original sin of TV journalism: the decision to operate news divisions as profit centers rather than public services, dating long before cable to the emergence of 60 Minutes as a primetime hit.

Olbermann, you had to expect, was not going to care for being likened to regular Worst Person in the World O’Reilly. And he came back last night with a Special Comment that accused Koppel of  misrepresenting the pre-cable history of TV news, of offering a poor representation of “objectivity” and its importance, and of being a prime example of a problem in news—essentially, distorting truth in the interests of balance—that Olbermann and company are now seeking to correct.

And if his commentary was a little, or more than a little, self-serving, I have to agree with Olbermann. On the first two of those points, anyway.

First, Olbermann makes an excellent and indisputable point that the bright line between the objective past and the subjective present is really not so bright or sharp. Edward R. Murrow and Walter Cronkite, he notes, while held up as pillars of neutrality today, are best remembered precisely for moments in which they made informed judgments: Murrow on Sen. Joseph McCarthy, Cronkite on Watergate and the Vietnam War.

I call that an excellent point, of course, because I’ve made it myself in the past, but it also points up a basic problem with our language when we have this whole debate. Namely, what journalists and people who talk about them generally call “objectivity” is not actual objectivity, but something more like “neutrality” (often a false and labored one). Objectivity does not mean having no opinion, taking no side or expressing no point of view. It means seeking, acknowledging and interpreting objective evidence, even when it conflicts with your preconceptions or with what you wish to be true. You can have subjective beliefs—because we all do—and yet subordinate them to objective evidence.

In most fields, someone who simply processes information yet is unable or unwilling ever to draw conclusions from it would not be considered very useful; only in journalism is that somehow the ideal. Koppel does no one any favors by reinforcing that concept. (Or by longing for the days when Olbermann’s contributions would be forbidden to avoid “the appearance” of partisanship; journalists should not be concerned about the appearance, as opposed to the actuality, of anything.)

And in fact, as Olbermann notes, some of Koppel’s best work has come from drawing an informed conclusion: say, that the Iran hostage crisis was sufficiently important to deserve a nightly newscast, which came to be called Nightline. (And which, by the way, was and has been a shining example of using news to make a dollar—nor is there anything wrong with that.)

Where Olbermann starts to get carried away in his high dudgeon is in, essentially, blaming Koppel and his conception of proper TV news for the Iraq War. Before, during and after the war, he says, the press failed to question the evidence that going to war was based on; “when truth was needed, all we got was facts–mostly lies, anyway.”

Well, not exactly. The real, valid criticism would be that, amid all the embedding of reporters and flashy video, we had an lack of incontrovertible facts—in particular about Saddam’s WMDs or the lack thereof—and that absence of facts was not treated with appropriate skepticism. Or mostly it wasn’t; in fact, the very old-school Knight-Ridder Washington bureau was almost alone in questioning the evidence for war, hard, and in turning out to have been right.

In other words, the problem was neither partisanship nor a slavish devotion to “facts”; it was the willingness and ability to assess a field of incomplete information and take the risk of making an informed judgment based on it. The answer was not reporting, “This side says X and this side says Y, who do you believe?”; but it was also not just editorializing and reflexively saying that, if the Bush administration said it was day, then it must be night. (Although, admittedly, in this particular case, that would have gotten you closer to the correct answer on WMDs.)

It’s odd, in any case, for Olbermann in one breath to say that Koppel is part of a great news tradition that he is actually upholding, then turn around and say that Koppel’s news tradition betrayed us and MSNBC is cleaning up the mess. (And, in the process, aggrandizing Olbermann as the true heir to Murrow. Then again, Koppel’s piece too carries an air of generational competition—look at how these new guys with their opinions and flashy graphics are screwing up the public trust we safeguarded!)

It also personalizes the issue, in a way that’s not helpful to Olbermann’s argument. Media observers like to turn arguments like this into personality stories, and in this case, I worry it boils down to: who do you think is the greater man, Ted Koppel or Keith Olbermann? I suspect that a lot of people in the media will want to come down on Koppel’s side—the long-serving, globe-trotting news hound over the guy who sits at a desk and delivers Special Comments—and thus ignore Olbermann’s strongest points.

But in the end, the winner of an argument is not determined by whom you like best, whom you admire most, or whom you want to be right. It comes down to making a call based on the evidence. There should be a term for that, too. What do you say we call it objectivity?

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  • http://www.stevebeste.com Steve Beste

    I think that Olbermann missed an opportunity to point out how Ted Koppel and America Held Hostage helped drive Jimmy Carter from office.

  • cythara

    Ted Koppel lost his new integrity long before he left Nightline. He became a blatant propagandist for Zionism and Israel, often using his show to subtly vilify the Palestinians and exalt the Israelis. I remember one show, a ‘town square’ show that had Ehud Olhmert on it calling Palestinians “monkeys” and other derogatory names. Koppel never did anything to stop this activity. His shows ALWAYS heavily tilted in Israel’s favor. When facts were against Israel, he would choose to ignore them.

    In just this same light, Olbermann’s observation that Koppel couldn’t be bothered to look into all the drum-beating for illegal war with Iraq is spot on. Olbermann didn’t go to the hilt, however, and explain that Koppel’s silence there is because he is an unregistered propaganda agent of Israel. We all know we were lied into the war, but amazingly (!) news organizations ‘can’t seem to find out why’. This is because they are all agents of Israel and the war was treason; to wit, dipping the American flag and placing the American Armed Forces at the disposal of Israeli foreign policy goals at the expense of real American Foreign Policy. Ted Koppel is slime. It is a pity the BBC and Washington Post give this guy a platform from which to spew his crap.

  • http://dsmelser.wordpress.com dsmelser

    “Well, not exactly. The real, valid criticism would be that, amid all the embedding of reporters and flashy video, we had an lack of incontrovertible facts—in particular about Saddam’s WMDs or the lack thereof—and that absence of facts was not treated with appropriate skepticism”

    The REAL valid criticism would be that, even if the claims were true, it was up to the UN and not the US acting unilaterally to deal with it. The rush to establish or disestablish the premise conceded the validity of the argument without any debate whatsoever but that debate was the substantive one (because it’s the one that speaks to our values and our commitment to the system of international law that we helped establish).

    I think Olbermann missed an opportunity here to talk about something more fundamental than the particulars of specific television personalities and their impact on the news. As pernicious as the effects of selecting news with a self-serving “bias” or world-view may be, the effects of believing that such a pitfall has been avoided merely by dismissing out of hand both ends of some tiny spectrum of allowable thought are even more pernicious. All that belief indicates is that the world-view inherent to THOSE sorts of newscasts are so deeply ingrained in us that we cannot even perceive them anymore.

    The belief that newspapers like say, The Washington Post, are typically representing an objective view of the world is a tribute to the effectiveness of propaganda in our society.

  • wdmll

    Related Topics: news media , objectivity, keith olbermann, msnbc, cable news, ted koppel:

    Do objectivity and Keith Olbermann equate? I don’t think so. MSNBC is a joke.

  • The Hoobie

    I too wish there were a suitable German word for that situation, so aptly described by (of course) Jon Stewart in his congratulations to MoveOn for their anniversary: “Congratulations, MoveOn, on 10 years of making even people who agree with you cringe.”

  • http://angiebarnes.wordpress.com angiebarnes

    I enjoyed the special comments that Keith did last night. I also agree with him that when you compare Fox entertainment to MSNBC No contest. I have watched Beck and he made me laughed, I watched the show when he was barking like a dog, wow that was funny. I realized this guy is nuts. MSNBC you have a fan 4 life.

  • roccojohnson

    What Olbermann fails to understand is that many, many of us want just “the facts,” rather than the “truth” as he sees it. C-SPAN is an important part of my news mix, precisely because I do not need some pompous boob like Olbermann forcing “context” down my throat.

  • http://timd13.wordpress.com timd13

    Its incredible that the culture at MSNBC allows for the universal tenet, there, that they are different than Fox; legitimate vs. illegitimate.

  • dollared

    There is no comparision between Fox and MSNBC. MSNBC deals with reality – it is a news organization. Four of its employees – O’Donnell, Olbermann, Maddow and Schultz, openly opine on that reality from the viewpoint somewhere between a moderate Republican in 1985 and a Moderate Democrat in 1998. One of its employees is a conservative Republican who has three hours every day to comment on the news.

    But it is a news organization with no political affiliations, owned by a multinational conglomerate.

    Fox, on the other hand, is the propaganda wing of the Republican Party. It knowingly distorts the truth – there are literally hundreds of cases of Fox or its on-air personalities editing material in a misleading way, making up lies and refusing to correct the lies even when they are proven, and deliberately distorting known facts. It is controlled by a single man, Rupert Murdoch, who is world renowned as an arch conservative, and its day to day editorial content is controlled by a Republican operative, Roger Ailes.

  • http://erieangel.wordpress.com erieangel

    There was a time when Fox News truly could hold claim to their slogan of “Fair and Balanced”. Not any more. No cable news network can be called that. They are all biased in some way. I prefer MSNBC because most of their anchors are liberal, as I am; however, I occasionally watch Fox and CNN in order to get a balance and a counter-point to what I’m getting from MSNBC. But it is usually daytime that Fox is turned on as the nightly anchors like Beck and Hannity simply make me either laugh or cringe. I used to be a fan of Rush, too. Years ago he had a syndicated tv series that I watched daily; but then he, too, turned into a nut that I couldn’t stomach.

  • http://rtk1963.wordpress.com rtk1963

    I must say that none of them are fair and balanced now. At least Rush and Hannity say that they are entertainers. The rest I question. At least in the past and now, Ted has been in the field. don’t know about Keith Olbergubber. I too have tired of Rush, but I really can’t sit thru gubber either. Keith is totally left. I a blind man can see it. For him to attack Ted, that was really low. There is a big difference in an entertainer and a journalist. don’t think that Keith Olbergubber see’s it yet. Ted has. Get over yourself Keith. Your ratings are not that damn good. Perhaps seek employment at Walmart as a greeter in you soon to be career.

  • http://jhonsmithco.wordpress.com/ Angel Paternina

    I don’t think the Murrow and Cronkite comparisons are best served with today newscasts. There’s a reason why Murrow on Sen. Joseph McCarthy and Cronkite on Watergate and the Vietnam War had so much traction. People believe them as objective reporters.

    Now, for example, nobody remember which newsman said the WMD of Iraq were a lie. Probably because it was an expectation issue over time, but also probably because few anchors had the weight to do just that.

    The only -cable- anchors with that weight right now are in CNN, despite of that and by his own fault, they mostly say the obvious -in this internet age-, 24 times a day with no news analysis, which it is necessary to fill a day of ‘news’.
    This analysis, deeply partisan, unobjective, and with political purpose, is viewed in Fox and MSNBC, which people digest them as ‘news’.

    I agree with Koppel, despite the criticism of him, that partisan news have become a business model.

  • olivececile

    I agree, the issue for me is trust. It is easy to say that MSNBC relies on facts, and Fox does not, but without independently confirming everything they say, that is tricky for the average person to discern. Fox, of course has the entirely wrong tone for a news network (“Do you think Steven Colbert should apologize to America?” Seriously??), but Olbermann’s tone is also unpleasant so that is not a completely helpful measure. Newscasters of yore seemed, to me, to build up a reservoir of trust, and then step out of their objective shoes for truly important issues (like the ones mentioned in James’s post), not for every House vote and midterm election. Perhaps I’m totally romanticizing them, as Olbermann claims Koppel has. But that is really what I think best serves us, and why I do not watch much cable news.

    (Also, because that Brian Williams is dreamy!) (Kidding)

  • barrykort

    Olbermann to Koppel: “Don’t touch my schadenjunque.”

  • The Hoobie

    Very well said! You’d think, as a flaming liberal, I’d be smack-dab in the sweet spot of Olbermann’s audience, but I really just can’t stand the guy. A near-constant state of perspective-free, self-congratulatory outrage does not earn or build my trust and diminishes the impact of the stories he’s trying to tell. I’m glad there still seems to be a place for sober reporting like this: http://nyti.ms/bDEzxc

  • bean22a

    I listen to most of the talking heads on MSNBC and FOX and I can assure you there is a difference between them.

    Ed Schultz is a psycho babbler similar to Rush Limbaugh or Glen Beck. None of them are worth listening to on a regular basis. Chris Matthews is a partisan Liberal but he is smart enough to bring people on his show to debate him. However, he likes to hear himself talk too much and his questions turn into long winded essays before he lets the guests answer. I like Rachel Maddow even though she is so partisan and concentrates too much on gay and lesbian issues dear to her heart. Olbermann is a pompous ass who never brings anyone on his show who is not there specifically to kiss his behind. You would think these brown nosing guests would be a little embarrassed by now. Every show is one hour of Bush, Republican, Conservative, FOX bashing. Night after night after night after….!! When is MSNBC going to wake up. Hannity and Beck are irrelevant. Beck especially appears to have gone over the hill.

    The best of the lot is O’Reilly. Conservative yes, but every show he invites anyone to come on and tell him where he is wrong. Or he brings on two divergent views to debate each other. He usually lets them speak their piece and gives them the last word. He may not be balanced but he is fair. And that’s why his show is the highest rated on Cable. It is the most interesting and I would bet has the most balanced audience of any of these shows. I also like the fact that he never mentions Olbermann’s name. Ever. Very smart!

    Election night was typical. MSNBC’s cast looked like 6 people who had just gotten Dear John letters. It was embarrassing and the NBC brass let them know it. Fox murdered them election night and for good reason. They were laughable because they are so partisan. If that is the kind of “news” reporting on cable Ted Koppel is absolutely right. It stinks.

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