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Juan Williams: Did He Have a Problem Opinion, or Do We Have a Problem With Opinions?

You do not really need to shed a tear for Juan Williams, unless you weep droplets of gold, and them you can pile them on top of the three-year $2 million contract Williams received from Fox News after NPR cut ties with him. To sum up: Monday night, Williams said on The O’Reilly Factor that he gets nervous when he sees passengers in “Muslim garb” getting on a plane with him. NPR cut his contract, giving muddled reasons: that giving out opinions hurt his credibility as a news analyst, but also, indirectly, that Williams’ specific opinion was beyond the pale.

I don’t weep for Williams, but beyond this story we’ve also lately seen Rick Sanchez, Octavia Nasr, Helen Thomas, Dr. Laura and others hastily dismissed or their careers ended for saying things that have offended people—like, beyond the media world, Shirley Sherrod. Are all these cases the same? Absolutely not, not even close—except that they’re an example of an increasingly prevalent one-strike policy on offending people that is doing no one any good.

Now that the Williams controversy has gone through the Outrageomatic 3000, there are about a dozen different issues rolled up in this story. But we can break it down into three general questions, which the argument over Williams is conflating. (1) Was what he said wrong? (2) If it was wrong, should NPR fire him for his wrongness? And (3) should NPR, or any other news outlet, be putting restrictions on its “news analysts” offering the opinions that they obviously have? So:

(1) Was what he said wrong? Totally. Maybe not in the way that it’s been portrayed, though. Just in practical terms, airline terrorists conceal themselves, which is why the 9/11 hijackers did not board their planes in any “Muslim garb” that fellow passengers would have noted. And Williams’ reaction is prejudiced—literally, pre-judging—by definition. (His disclaimer that he can’t be a bigot because he’s written books about the civil rights movement is ridiculous, as has been his sanctimony after the fact.)

But watching the entire Monday segment, Williams seems to be saying—not well, and with constant interruption from Papa Bear—that it is only a gut reaction, not necessarily one that he’s proud of. He’s confessing a feeling, not defending a reasoned judgment, and doing so in the context of saying that all Muslims should not be lumped together any more than all Christians after the Oklahoma City bombing. For all that, I hate that Williams would feel this about a Muslim friend of mine getting on his plane—but people do feel it, and I wish we could have conversations about all this dark matter in our collective brains without people demagoguing it, on the one hand, or being summarily fired on the other.

Personally, I find much more offensive what Bill O’Reilly said on The View (the impetus for the Monday segment): that the Park51 Islamic center is inappropriate because “Muslims attacked us on 9/11.” He’s technically right: the radical group of people who attacked on 9/11 were Muslims. But his inference—that therefore it is offensive for any Muslims, without distinction, to worship near the site of the attack—is to me as wrong as wrong can be. Do I want him fired? No—I’m not going to join his fan club, but I want him argued with.

(2) If it was wrong, should NPR fire him for his wrongness? The most depressing thing to me about the argument in the last 24 hours is that so much of it is premised on: if I believe there was something wrong with what Williams said, he should be fired; if not, not. (Related: If someone I dislike is on Side A of the issue, then I shall be on Side B—hence the strange-bedfellows aspect of Fox’s amen corner rallying behind an NPR liberal.)

Let’s be clear: this is not a First Amendment issue. Williams is free to speak his mind, NPR is free to can him. But there’s the legal question of rights, and then there’s the role of media in honestly addressing issues that are full of landmines. If people talk about race, religion, gender, you name it, they’re going to make mistakes, or express things badly, or reveal assumptions baked into their psyches that we wish were not there. It’s not anything goes—drawing the line is the $2 million question—but I wish we would err more on the side of disclosure, exposure, and letting people screw up.

Jon Stewart said on Larry King Live that he didn’t believe Rick Sanchez should have been fired for his remarks about Jews running the media, and while I found Sanchez’s remarks dumb at best and deeply offensive at worst, I agree. And I think that was more than Stewart being gracious: comedians just have a better sense than journalists of how effectively to deal with prejudices and controversies that get people offended. You put it out there, you probe it, you make it work for you. It’s not that absolutely anything goes (ask Michael Richards), but if you bottle up any dangerous thoughts, you’ve got no comedy, because you got no ideas. And while journalism is not comedy, I don’t think the analogy is completely imperfect, when it comes to the discussion of ideas.

Much like CNN with Sanchez, NPR probably felt it had little choice. It was going to get it from one side or another regardless; it saw a liability and wanted to limit it. Some of the greatest promulgators of p.c. in our society are not universities but corporations: they just want to get work done, make a buck (and not get sued), and if covering up any potentially distracting, upsetting thoughts is the price, it’s cheap. And it makes sense for a business to act this way. CNN and NPR, in their respective instances, were acting like businesses first, players in the field of ideas second.

(3) Should NPR, or any other news outlet, be putting restrictions on its “news analysts” offering the opinions that they obviously have? That was NPR’s bedrock explanation here—that Williams sacrificed his credibility with listeners, who will see him as biased. To be fair, NPR has had issues with Williams commenting on Fox for a long time. They chose to fire him for this comment, of course—but do they have a point that he shouldn’t be opining on Fox and analyzing on NPR?

If you’ve read me regularly at all, you know I believe it’s counterproductive and useless for journalists to behave as if they have no opinions; no one believes it, and audiences only become more suspicious. (See here for my fuller feelings on fuller disclosure.) All these firings are in some way the collateral damage of the new era of new-media journalism—where openness is encouraged—colliding with the ingrained rules of old journalism, which wants to survive but not necessarily to change.

Hence the Washington Post booted a terrific (and opinionated) politics reporter, Dave Wiegel, because he made comments on a listserv that offended conservatives he covers. (Many of whom are now defending Williams. There is plenty of hypocrisy to go all around here. For that matter, Williams has been on the bad side of some liberals for a while, not just for opinions of his but for appearing on Fox—the Colmes effect, if you will.)

But if it’s silly for reporters to be bound by this stricture, it’s absolutely ridiculous for a news analyst. Williams, or any other “analyst” on NPR, is not a human analysis machine with all other synapses deactivated, like a Mentat from Dune. Leaving aside the fact that opinions sneak in to radio and other “news analysis” all the time, I know that an analyst with a brain is going to form opinions on the issues they know and care about. I’d rather know what the guy analyzing Muslims in American society, or homeland security policy, thinks when someone in “Muslim garb” gets on a plane.

What’s best practice on a plane is best practice on a plane. But when it comes to the ideas in my media, I don’t want everyone’s baggage stowed away; I want it unpacked and examined.

Related Topics: bill o'reilly, fox news, Jon Stewart, juan williams, npr, objectivity, rick sanchez, News Media, Uncategorized
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  • profdante

    Very nice analysis of this somewhat ridiculous-yet-sad story. Plus bonus points for Mentat! I don’t particularly like what he said, but I don’t think he should have been fired. It’s been interesting hearing NPR cover the story that they themselves created…

  • http://nygcc.wordpress.com nygcc

    we do not know that these firings were “one-strike” policies.
    you don’t know it and no one knows it — except for the insiders who make the firing decisions.
    we have no idea what Williams (or Sanchez) said or did behind closed doors that might have irked their bosses.
    Williams said that NPR may have been looking for a reason to fire him because of his conservative POV.
    but could Williams have been looking for a reason to leave NPR as well?
    and is that the reason he said what he said?
    just a thought.

  • The Hoobie

    Very well said. All I could think yesterday was how much what Williams actually said (when O’Reilly let him talk) reminded me of what Shirley Sherrod said in the unedited video and even what President Obama said in his Philadelphia speech on race—about acknowledging racial fears and prejudices so that you can move past them. Would NPR have fired Barack Obama after that Philadelphia speech?

    (On an embarrassingly minor note, props for the Dune reference! I happen to have said just this morning “the sleeper must awaken!” when I was trying to get out of bed. I’ll be sure to alert Tuned Inland first if I learn later today that my name is a killing word. :-) )

  • http://twitter.com/poniewozik James Poniewozik

    I was also reminded of Obama’s speech and what he said, for instance, about his grandmother and her reaction to young black men. I’d love to see him address an issue like this that way–but in 2010, it will be more like, reporters will ask him if he supports the firing or not, are you for JW or against him, and the two sides of this will be waiting to see who should pounce.

  • charlieromeobravo

    yeah, this is probably the most cogent analysis of the situation I’ve read today. The right is painting it as a 1st Amendment issue when it’s certainly not. Williams can say whatever he likes where ever he wants, NPR just doesn’t have to pay him to do it if they disagree, as is their right.
    .
    I’m mixed about whether or not he should be fired. Taken alone, the statement is pretty stupid. Taken in context, I guess he’s just admitting that he’s human. We’re all biased in some way or other. At least he was brave (or dumb) enough to admit it. In the context of any other show (maybe on… NPR?) it could have lead to a very interesting and honest discussion. That would never happen on the Factor though.
    .
    Rereading that last paragraph, maybe I’m not so mixed on the idea of firing him over this particular offense. He should probably have gotten a private chit chat with the NPR management staff and moved on.

  • annatarkov

    Bravo James. And yes, kudos for the Dune reference :-)

  • simonofthebollocks

    it must be nice to be completely unbiased and act as a complete ‘neutral’ human being in every situation – it’s also completely impossible.

    we all make snap judgements about others based on appearance – every single day of our lives.

    whether he should have kept a lid on his ‘feelings’? – yeah it would’ve been a smart idea given his position and i understand why NPR felt the need to fire him.

    - but i do wish that we could be more open in our discussions and maybe Williams felt that too and over-stepped the mark.

    i don’t think the writer of this article is brave enough to move the debate forward. all of this liberal hand-wringing every time there’s an issue of this kind helps as little as all of the right-wing hate.

    the solution must lie in love not hate and believing in the delusion that any of us can be perfect in thoughts and actions is only keeping us in the same place where we endlessly debate whether we’ve offended someone who in the end we don’t ‘know’ or care to ‘know’ but pretend to care ‘about’.

  • sassiebrat

    Leave it to a lefty to MISS THE POINT! aka a PRINCIPLE! There is no right or wrong when it comes to emotions! feelings!!! This has nothing to do with money and it certainly should have nothing to do with left or right, except you lefties love taking our freedoms. AND it has nothing to do with how someone is dressed, except if they are dressed as a Muslim. We have been conditioned by their own actions STARTING back in 1979! Remember the Marines, the Cole, Nick, embassies, trains, 9/11??? ALL MUSLIM!!! I get nervous! Want to fire me now?

  • sieben13

    Juan Williams: Did He Have a Problem Opinion, or Do We Have a Problem With Opinions? Just depends on who,s opinion they are

  • masurix

    This reminds me of an excerpt from that great transcript you posted of that Jon Stewart interview on NPR.

    “…I think we always have to remember that people can be opponents, but not enemies. And there are enemies in the world. We just need the news media to help us delineate. And I think that’s where the failing is, that the culture of corruption that exists in the media doesn’t allow us to delineate between enemies and opponents.”

    I’ve been thinking about that a lot, lately. We’re so quick to utterly demonize someone we disagree with that it completely kills discourse. The idea that if you disagree with me, you should be Dealt With seems to be taking great hold in this country. That’s not a healthy thing for us.

  • beerbaron

    This is satire, right?

    Either way, you forgot the Crusades — that was the Muslims’ fault too.

  • np042

    I like TO capitalize RANDOM words for extra EMPHASIS!
    .
    That said, you cannot claim this is not a left or right issue and then flattly state that “lefties love taking our freedoms.” There is no freedom being taken here. It is NPR excercising their freedom to employ who they wish.
    .
    That said, I find the claim that “lefties” try to take our freedoms absurd. It is the right and the GOP that are trying to do that, or at the very least, control how people live their lives. Please see the Patriot Act, gay marriage, Sen Demint claiming openly gay men and single women shouldn’t teach, Park 51 community center, etc ad nauseum.

  • themainfan

    It is so like a strident PC liberal like Poniewozic to write about this topic in the way he did. Forget what is PC and just do honesty for once like Juan Williams.

  • themainfan

    That is such a hypocrtiical statement for Stewart. Just because he says his attacks on Republicans are meant to be funny doesn’t mean he doesn’t see them as an enemy that must be defeated. That is the purpose of his show. He doesn’t directly work for Obama and the Democrats but that is the point of his show.

  • marley1114

    wtf? If there is a better example of why I quit reading Time ( and quit listening to NPR ) years ago I don’t know what it might be ( I’m sure Joe Klein might have had something to do with it ).

    The problem here is JW doesn’t have the same far left views as NPR has. Go back and look at the outrageous statements Nina Totenberg(sp?) has made over the years. Any fair news organization would have fired her years ago. The issue for me is not what JW said but: 1. where he said it, and 2. the outragious hypocrisy NPR has shown. The comments NPR’s CEO have made should be an embarrassment for her.

    I don’t want my taxes to go to this pitiful org., any more than I want them to go to Acorn.

  • ksuchomel

    Funny that the “righty” thinks that the “leftys” always take away our rights when George W. Bush took away more of our rights then any President since WW2 and FDR. Last time I checked Bush was VERY FAR RIGHT.

  • ksuchomel

    As a boss once told me, “you live in a Democracy, but you don’t work in one”. The company can fire you if they don’t like you, no questions asked.

  • joesmom

    Time needs to do better research. Juan Williams has been repeatedly reprimanded by NPR for violation of contract terms. The guy WANTED to get fired, as he has a big fat contract from Fox News sitting on his desk and what better way to draw attention to yourself? He purposely mouthed off, got fired, will sue NPR, make money off them and get his multi-million contract at Fox, who will play the “vile liberal” card. Its nauseating how he used NPR. Juan gets no respect from me!

  • ksuchomel

    right on

  • palerider1957

    According to this article, I am wrong for holding opinions that don’t agree with you or liberals or is not PC, is that right? If I read the Constitution, and the First Amendment, I see that it gives us the FREEDOM OF SPEECH. I do not see any disclaimers or amend ems that state that as long as my speech does not offend someone. Personally, I don’t give a rats behind if something I say offends someone! The liberals don’t care if they offend someone. Take Meg Whitman being called a “whore”. That the mainstream media gave scant coverage to, and mostly made a joke about it. Or another “praying for Glenn Beck to die or get some strange disease”. Or how about the story, repeated ad nauseam, that the Tea Party are a bunch of racists and “old white people”. I guess that’s why the media says NOTHING about Islam, don’t want to offend them. So, let them murder thousands of people, wipe out whole villages (and this is done not by terrorists, but by common, everyday Muslims). It never gets reported of how Muslims WORLDWIDE, burn Christians ALIVE, just about everyday. Same with Jews. But the mainstream media has no problems bashing Israel, even though arabs are continually firing rockets into Israel. (there is no such race as “palestinians”, never was, never will be). If you don’t like something I say, or get offended, that is YOUR problem. I have the right to feel the way I feel for whatever reason I feel that way. I have the RIGHT to speak my opinion, whether it is PC or not. Stop trying to take away the FREEDOM OF SPEECH, by limiting it or labeling something “hate” speech, or “intolerant” or whatever. That is nothing more or less than an attempt to silence dissent and free speech.

  • headybrew

    Apparently you missed the part where the author said:
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    “Let’s be clear: this is not a First Amendment issue. Williams is free to speak his mind, NPR is free to can him.”
    .

    No one is trying to take away your rights, nor did the author label it as hate speech.

  • The Hoobie

    Oh, wow. Yes, much the same way that in 2010 writing an article defending Juan Williams somehow gets you tarred as a knee-jerk liberal. Yiiikes.

    As to point 1 of your article, earlier today, TPM posted this great Tumblr link: http://muslimswearingthings.tumblr.com/

  • Bemused

    It never ceases to amaze me how these people on the right who constantly cling to the Constitution fail to even understand it (I’m looking at you, Sarah Palin). The First Amendment ONLY protects your speech from governmental interference. It doesn’t provide blanket protection from the consequences of the things you say, and it has NOTHING to do with private employment relationships. Just as Fox was free to let Colmes go, NPR is free to let Williams go. It’s just not a constitutional issue.

    Feel free to say whatever you want–but don’t expect other people to suppress their reactions.

  • thomasfiore

    Juan Williams gained added credibility by his association with NPR. Part of what he did with that credibility was help Bill O’Reilly walk back his over the top comments. One way that he did that was in instances like this to try to create some middle ground for O’Reilly. NPR was being harmed by their association with someone who gave aid and comfort to morons. NPR got tired of it and cut him loose. Now Mr. Williams can look forward to a career where nobody pays much attention to what he says since he is just another house liberal for a network that has no respect for anyone but conservatives.

  • heavyloads

    Why has nobody noted that NPR is publicly funded? This isn’t ABC, Fox, CNN… this is essentially a taxpayer funded Liberal news outlet. It’s criminal that it even exists. They were waiting for Juan to slip up in the slightest, solely because of his ties to Fox News. And bash Fox all you want, they’re the highest rated news channel by FAR and after watching the likes of Olberman or Maddow, it’s easy to see why. It’s funny how people slam Fox for being so one sided, and all of a sudden they’re the only ones coming to Juan’s defense. The difference between Juan and Matthews or Olberman is that he’s actually intelligent and civil. Chris, Kieth, and Rachel are disgusting people with zero watch-ability and nothing informative to add to the narrative other than the tired Liberal, Bush-bashing, Socialist agenda that all the media is pushing.

    Welcome to full-time Fox, Juan, where your opinions and true, unfiltered or politically spun feelings and insights are welcome and appreciated.

  • http://jlnum04.wordpress.com jlnum04

    Isn’t it cute how this author keeps bringing up the money that Williams is now getting? From “tears of gold” to “3 year 2 million dollar contract” to “the 2 million dollar question”, etc. The author is a snarky liberal who knows what NPR did, knows the issues involved, but hates Williams for exposing all this. James Poniewozik’s article is badly written, twisting like a snake trying to cover his liberal tracks, taking a point of view then opposing it later. Read his own opinion on Williams seeing muslim garb. Reading liberals is like reading a 1st grader’s writing attempts. It’s cute that the kid tries, but there is nothing there.

  • http://jlnum04.wordpress.com jlnum04

    CRB says “I’m mixed about whether or not he should be fired. Taken alone, the statement is pretty stupid…
    Rereading that last paragraph, maybe I’m not so mixed on the idea of firing him over this particular offense.”

    CRB feels Williams’ comment is stupid, and should have been fired over this “particular offense”. I wonder what CRB would have felt 2 months, or 2 years, after 9/11 if he had boarded a plane with, say, 5 or 10 men dressed in ‘muslim garb’. Hmmm? And why does CRB stress this “particular offense”? Offense? To state a feeling? A natural feeling, after multiple plane hijackings?? How many offenses did Willims commit against CRB?

  • http://jlnum04.wordpress.com jlnum04

    Sassiebrat is stating facts from 1979 on. Beerbaron refuses these facts, and wants to go back to the crusades which stopped in 1291 AD.

    Ok Beerbaron. The facts: The crusades started mainly to stop the muslims from invading, and to stop the kidnappings and ransoms of pilgrims tothe Holy land.

    np042: List all the people actually impacted by the Patriot Act. All of them. Who was arrested?

    Headybrew: Did you read the article. The author thinks Williams is “totally’ wrong, and “prejudiced”. Can you read? Plus he got fired!

  • http://newsy1.wordpress.com newsy1

    Absolutely!

  • http://newsy1.wordpress.com newsy1

    It doesn’t take a liberal to notice that NPR and Fox News are miles apart idealogically. You can’t be a pundit, journalist, analyst and Fox “contributor” without raising the ire of someone. NPR should have said years ago; Hey, take your pick, it’s us or Fox, we have a problem here. So now that Fox has taken him under their wing it will be interesting to see how it plays out the first time Williams disagrees with or falls out of favor with the “factor”. He will then get a real taste of what unethical really is. http://www.newsy1.wordpress.com

  • elkaba

    Political correctness is the 21st century’s hobgobblin of small minds.

  • elkaba

    James, I agree completely that it is foolish to try and present news analysts as being opinion-neutral. It would be far more informative to be able to digest their analysis in light of known positions, rather than having to guess all the time what those positions might be.

  • Bemused

    NPR is a nonprofit organizations that gets about 2 percent of its operating budget from the government. My guess is that doesn’t come close to the amount of corporate tax breaks for-profit outlets like Fox, ABC, etc. all get. One way or the other, the taxpayer pays.

  • http://g2ed.wordpress.com g2ed

    Democrats, liberals and PCers, are the destruction of human rights of liberty and the right of free speech. They are creating the 1984 George Orwell concieved as thought police, and the reconstruction of language. These people are the most bigoted against ideas, traditions, and open dialogue. It is truly a sad day in this country when people cannot express their views openly and without retribution. The pity is they frame it in self righteousness and a holier than thou attitude.

  • nicekid123

    I think that was an honest remark which got misinterpreted. I feel the same when I see a bearded man without Mustache. But the thing is its not because he is a Muslim. Its because I doubt that hes a fanatic, or even worse an extremist. Thats different. I have many Muslim friends but I know that they mean know harm to the society. But as soon as I see a long bearded Muslim or someone in burqua, in the back of my mind I end up relating them to Taliban or some other fanatic group.

  • michaelfury

    I’d rather know who is the “well-dressed” guy who is able to circumvent security, wouldn’t you, Mr. Poniewozik?

    http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2010/05/20/points-of-failure/

  • lbjack

    JK repeats the widely broadcast canard that “what Williams said was wrong,” and does he have the right to say it, as citizen, as “analyst.” One need not look at context to see that Williams is making a purely descriptive not a prescriptive statement. It’s irrelevant if the feelings Williams describes — the subject of his analysis — are wrong or not. The only “right or wrong” question is whether Williams accurately described the feelings of most Americans, including himself. The obvious answer is that he did.

    So, including oneself in the analysis is where analysis ends and opinion, which PK graciously grants journalists, begins? It’s not that no journalist can avoid letting his own bias enter his analysis — being a professional is indeed separating personal bias from coverage. It’s that in this instance, Williams was not doing that at all but was in fact stepping out of himself, and looking at himself in the cold light of analysis.

    Yes, Williams was being an analyst — he was doing his job! And that’s the point precious media twerps like PK refuse to acknowledge.

    So much for Points 1, 2 and 3. Sophomoric tripe, from beginning to end.

  • lbjack

    Oh and while we’re on the spurious subject . . .

    Frankly, if I saw an in-your-face Muslim board my aircraft I’d be less nervous than offended. Allahu Akbar = Sieg Heil!

    And I’d be right. And yes, PK, I’d be happy to debate you on the inherent danger of Muslims, as Muslims, anytime. But I presume you won’t care to engage, finding it prudent rather to dismiss as bigots those who do not feel warm and cuddly about Muslims, than to risk showing yourself up for the mindless PC parrot you are.

  • http://dianaparadis.wordpress.com Diana

    I think Jose Padilla was affected by the patriot act. Although because US citizens can be tried in secret courts because of the patriot act, I guess we will never know who is affected and who isn’t.

    Sassiebrat, to your larger point:

    The muslims who perpetrated those crimes weren’t dressed in traditional garments when they committed those crimes. They were wearing western-style clothing (or in one case, a military uniform). It isn’t just that Williams was bigoted; it is that his bigotry had absolutely no basis in reality. If anything, he should be scared of muslims wearing western style clothes!

  • http://dianaparadis.wordpress.com Diana

    Palerider:

    Do you have any evidence for your claim that “it never gets reported of how Muslims WORLDWIDE, burn Christians ALIVE, just about everyday. Same with Jews.”

    Any evidence at all? Or did someone send you a chain email, and you repeated it here? Christian and Jewish missionaries all over the world are in constant contact with the States – no one has gotten the word out that “Stan got burned at the stake last week”? Especially if this is happening every day.

    Of course you have the right to free speech. But I also have the right to call you a liar.

    PS – there is this thing called grammar. Retyping your quote was painful.

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