Lostwatch: Original Sin

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LOST - "Across the Sea" - The motives of John Locke are finally explained, on "Lost," TUESDAY, MAY 11 (9:00-10:00 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network. (ABC/MARIO PEREZ) MARK PELLEGRINO, ALLISON JANNEY

SPOILER ALERT: Before you read this post, tell your brother not to sit too close to that brightly glowing TV set, and enjoy a nice episode of Lost together.

I’m going to go out on a limb and say this is going to be a divisive episode of Lost. What you think of the “Across the Sea” probably comes down to how you answer the question: Did we need to know all this?

Or put another way, it comes down to which answers you think we do need from Lost, and which answers we don’t need. Is it really, really important that you end the series knowing who Adam and Eve were? Where the black and white stones came from? Who built the frozen wheel and how it got underground? Where Jacob and the Man in Black came from and why they are rivals?  Why the Others speak Latin? If so, then “Across the Sea” let you check a whole lot of items off your list.

On the other hand, if what you want most for the last few hours of Lost is to complete the emotional and story arc of the characters whom you’ve been invested in for six years (as opposed to ancient, pre-psychological, quasi-divine figures you met at the end of last season), then you may have, as I did, spent too much of “Across the Sea” checking your watch, waiting for a scenery switch, or—and Lost does not often make me do this—rolling your eyes.

I say this knowing that there was a lot of the episode that worked on paper—that fit into the empty puzzle spaces of the show, and that expanded on its themes and mythical/Biblical allusions. (More on that in a bit.)

One thing you could argue that the episode did was that it complicated our moral view of Jacob and MIB. After last week’s episode, Cuse and Lindelof were on record saying that the submarine bloodbath happened in part to establish that, unambiguously, Locke/MIB was the antagonist of the remainder of the series. After this episode, though, we see that he’s not an entirely, thoroughly, uncomplicatedly bad guy. He has reasons for his behavior; he didn’t necessarily start out bad. And Jacob—well, not an entirely good and selfless guy. A bit of a sap, actually.

I like the idea of showing that. I like it a lot—on paper. (I have maintained from the get-go that a guy who, for instance, basically caused Nadia to get killed by a car to serve his interests is not my idea of a saintly figure.) Is an entire flashback episode the best way to show that, though? To answer, as with so many things Lost, we have to go back to Star Wars.

Darth Vader was the antagonist of Star Wars. He was the bad guy. He choked people with his mind. And yet… he was not bad at his core. We learned this not through flashbacks but through the action of characters in dramatic context. Luke believed that Vader had good in him. Obi-Wan said that he’d once been a great Jedi. And in the end, he saw Palpatine trying to kill his son, and he rose against him. That was all we needed to understand Darth Vader’s character.

But then George Lucas also created an entire three-movie prequel to further explain it. Tell me this: would Return of the Jedi have been better if, somewhere before the final battle at the second Death Star, Lucas had added an extended flashback showing us how Anakin was born in slavery, was in a podrace, lost his mother to murder, and had a dream that his wife was going to die?

I’m going to say no. And that’s why, for me, at this point, an entire episode of “Across the Sea” seemed unnecessary—better dealt with in the context of the action and dialogue, even at the risk of possible ticking off some fans who really had to know who Adam and Eve were and where that wheel came from.

I’ll go farther, in fact, and say that the episode is an argument for leaving some questions unanswered, answering them cryptically, leaving them shrouded in mystery. Sometimes you’ve just got to say “A wizard did it” and leave it at that. Jacob and MIB’s mother had it right: “Every question I answer will simply lead to another question.” How did she herself get to the Island? How does she know what she knows about the light? You could pursue that line endlessly—and we don’t need to know it.

I had to contort myself a little in writing that last paragraph, because, as far as I know, the Mother does not have a name. Nor does MIB. And that gets to what may have been a problem with “Across the Sea”–it took a series that is deeply and richly psychological and character-based and moved it into the realm of the allegorical. Which means that, whatever you thought of Allison Janney’s performance or the Clan of the Cave Bear visuals or the acting of the Justin Bieber-like Young Jacob and MIBs, it was simply a jarring fit with the series we’ve watched to date.

Lost, after all, is a show that’s distinguished by its richness of character. It’s fleshed out peripheral figures like Rose and Bernard, and although there were plenty of nameless redshirts and one-note characters like Frogurt, it at least was dedicated to the idea that, theoretically, it could pull any person out of its lineup and make them a wholly realized person. Now we’re learning about some of the most important figures (apparently) in the endgame and they are literally archetypes without names.

That’s not an invalid form of storytelling, any more than Greek drama or oral folktales are. But it’s an odd fit; it’s as if you had suddenly stuck an chunk of Medea in the middle of a Chekhov play. And again—in theory, I like the daring of it. In practice, I don’t yet see why I needed it. Maybe—and I certainly hope—that will become clearer over the next week and a half. And it goes back to a concern I’ve voiced all season: I don’t want the endgame of Lost to become too much about Jacob and MIB, because they’re simply not people the way the Losties—or for that matter Ben Linus—are. They’re not characters as we recognize them in the sense of modern drama, any more than Athena or Apollo are. (The Greek kind, not the BSG kind.)

Now having said all that, the episode did play on and elaborate on a lot of important Lost themes in interesting ways. It was maybe the most overtly Biblical episode of Lost yet. And yet it didn’t just recreate a Biblical story; it took several and mashed them up, complicated them. There are elements of Cain and Abel, but the son kills the mother—and cannot kill his brother. There’s Esau and Jacob, but as we now learn, Jacob is the one who feels insecure about his birthright and the love of his mother. There’s the prodigal son—but he does not exactly get welcomed back with a fatted calf.

And there’s an original sin, but it’s not only a murder. It’s a theft—a mother stealing another’s babies, something that we’ve seen repeated down the history of the Island, with similar results of madness and murder. And really, there’s another original sin, one that brings these characters closest to the psychology of the contemporary Oceanic 815 characters: parents passing their issues, deceptions and mistrust on to their children.

It’s a fair guess to say that Lost is, in part, about whether people can break cycles of behavior and avoid repeating their parents’ (and their own) mistakes: in this case, Mother’s belief that people who come to the Island will inevitably (echoing MIB’s words exactly) fight, destroy, kill, over and over again. It makes me wonder if MIB/Smokey/Locke will have the chance, through our favorite characters, to finally see that he and Mother were wrong.

It’s neat, if nothing else, to see all these themes tied together retroactively here, to see that, just like with Adam and Eve, every sin of the Island that we’ve seen was enacted in miniature thousands of years ago. I’m finding, as I said to Todd VanDerWerff in our Twitter discussion of the episode, that I’m enjoying writing about “Across the Sea,” and its mythological themes, more than I actually enjoyed watching the episode. Which could well mean that it will end up being exactly the set-up that the remainder of Lost needs.

With two more episodes to go, I’m hoping so. As Lost has told us, you’ve got to have faith.

Now the hail of bullets:

* As mentioned above, Cuselof had been saying last week’s episode was meant to establish that Locke was the bad guy from here on out. Misdirection? Maybe a little, but not necessarily; as in our Anakin/Vader example, an antagonist doesn’t have to have always been bad, or be purely bad. That may have been what they were getting at.

* So among the Island’s magical powers: enabling people to suddenly learn English! Seriously, I wasn’t expecting subtitled Latin for the entire episode, but the switchover took me out of the moment. Of course, we needed to hear it to explain the Others’ preference for Latin—maybe another, small, example of the urge for answers getting in the way of the greater needs of drama.

* Whatever causes all the doings on the Island, the existence of ghosts apparently predates MIB’s transformation into Smokey. So there must be more ancient forces behind the ghosts, forces whose nature we’ll never know. And I’m fine with that. A wizard did it!

* That ur-backgammon game that MIB found? It’s the Egyptian game Senet, which the Tuned In Jrs. and I learned how to play on a recent visit to the Brooklyn Museum; and in fact, Lost’s set looks remarkably like one in the museum’s collection.

* I thought Allison Janney did a fine job getting across Mother’s febrile if misguided love for her sons, although she could only do so much with lines like, “A little bit of this light is inside every man. But they always want more.” Again, on paper it’s believable dialogue for someone with her character’s worldview, but a little of it goes a long way.

* Speaking of the light, Mrs. Tuned In and I had a long discussion about the episode after it was over. She is much more firmly in the sci-fi camp of Lost than I am, and to her resolving the Island’s power with a bunch of mystical mumbo-jumbo about light and warmth seems to sell out everything the show established about the importance of the Dharma Initiative and the science of the Island. That part doesn’t bother me so much. To me, it’s natural that someone thousands of years ago, who’s never heard of atoms or radiation, will look at something as a magical life force; and someone in 1974 will see electromagnetic radiation. But all this makes me think we could be headed for a split, as with the BSG finale, between fans who like a “spiritual” ending and those who see it as a betrayal.

* Any of the women in the Tuned Inland Lost audience disturbed by the fact that the show features so many insane mothers? (Rousseau, Claire and now Mom.) It’s redeemed for me somewhat by the fact that the show’s dads are no picnic either generally, but it’s mostly the moms who carry the crazy.

* So why did Mother thank MIB when he killed her? See—another question! It never ends!

[Update: Well, here's a thought, after sleeping on the episode—suppose Mom is a  smoke monster herself. Perhaps, whenever she got to the Island, she too was intrigued by the light, got lfushed down the same glowing toilet that MIB did, and was transformed. Unable to die, and "tired" of life, she welcomes death at her son's hand. This would explain how she knows so much about the nature and effects of the light. It would explain how she managed to take out that entire village of Bronze Age Others. And it might explain the idea of there being a special blade, like Dogen's, that one is to use to kill MIB—a magnetized blade, perhaps? It does not, on the other hand, explain why she would leave a second body behind, assuming she left behind her original as did MIB. Make no sense? Hey, I'm trying here.]

* Finally, as for Adam and Eve: I wasn’t as bothered as some viewers (see Alan Sepinwall’s post) by the heavyhandedness of flashing back to the discovery of the bodies—in a way, I find the seasn 1 callbacks this year kind of sweet—though I agree we didn’t need to include the “our own Adam and Eve” cherry on top.

* The light that turned MIB into Smokey looked a lot like the light that didn’t destroy Desmond, no? I am going to guess that this is important.

* Maybe all this episode needed was: more humorous nicknames. Anyone have some for MIB and Mom?

Update 2: Wow, early the next morning and the Internet is discussing the crap out of this episode. This is one of the things I love about Lost—the way it invites unpacking and meaning-making. And whether “Across the Sea” fascinated or frustrated you, I’m guessing we’re going to do more talking about this one than any episode yet this season. (Plan to call in sick the day after the finale.) And for more “Across” talk, see Jeff Jensen’s instant reaction (“Grade A ideas in a grade B package”), Mo Ryan (who expands much further on the point about Lost’s female characters), Myles McNutt (who had a great discussion about how the revelations worked, if not as answers, then as metaphors), and Noel Murray (who makes a strong case for many of the elements of the episode I had issues with).

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  • chelsea15jk

    In answer to your bunch of questions at the top, I for one DID need to know all of that. It’s the little mysteries that drive me crazy, but are so satisfying when you get the answers.

    While I missed not having our usual characters, I thought this ep gave some much needed character to Jacob and MIB. Jacob is a pansy, and I really feel bad for MIB! He just wants to get off the island!

    I think maybe why Mom said thank you is because she couldn’t kill herself? Like Richard or something. She knew (suspected) MIB would kill her after what she did to his friends.

    “The light that turned MIB into Smokey looked a lot like the light that didn’t destroy Desmond, no? I am going to guess that this is important.”

    ? I think I may have missed something…which ep was that?

    I’m content with accepting ‘magic’ as an answer for the pretty light thing though. Cool to see how he became the Smoke Monster. I’m assuming that’s his true form now, but he can resemble humans.

    Also, the promo’s for the next week’s ep really suck this season. But I guess if you are watching now you will hang on to the end, so a cool series of clips won’t change your mind. XD

  • popculturehaiku

    What the hell was that? An episode of Lost? Really?

    Since you asked, I am a little disturbed by what the show has done with female characters this season. Until late in the series, there were always a number of strong women characters who seemed equally important to the men in the overall narrative. But then they killed Juliet, they turned Claire crazy, they never bothered to develop Ilana at all, and they even seemed to forget what to do with Sun most of the time.

    And now there’s this bizarre, nameless character who’s implicitly responsible for the catastrophic conflict between MIB and Jacob because she’s their “crazy mother”? Not helping. Also not helping is dialogue like, “A little bit of this light is inside every man. But they always want more.” Not only is that painfully heavy-handed (as was the entire episode), but it’s also gratuitously sexist. Couldn’t she have just “everyone” instead of “every man”?

  • lordhalston

    Magic is not the answer and this also address James’ concern about the split between LOST science and spirituality. The Island is a gateway between the worlds of the real…and the imaginary…the physical world and the sub-conscience world. The brain functions in the same way it connects us to our conscientiousness in theory::: When we die its like turning off a television… our conscientiousness doesn’t disappear it simply no longer is visible in the physical world. The brain is the gateway between these to worlds and is the only part of the body to exert powerful electromagnetic fields…the Island is a larger version of the brain with similar electromagnetic properties that groups like Dharma seek to exploit (most likely to use the island to transcend all living conscientiousness [see Hindu belief in attaing onness with the universe]) In other words the show seeks to bridge the gap between spirituality and science…the world of Math…and the world of the imaginary which in the case of Daniels notebook can be explained using imaginary number (ex i,-i, 2i, -2i, etc)

  • chelsea15jk

    I’m on the LOST imdb boards, and they’re theorizing maybe the hunters (the first guys Jacob and MIB say) are Sayid and Sawyer…Jack maybe looked like he was part of that too. Is this completely crazy? It kinda sounded like Sawyer…

  • chelsea15jk

    Okay fine sheesh! Magic isn’t the answer.

    I’m just saying I’d be ok if they left that bit a mystery.

  • nickelking

    I’m glad this season’s “next week” have sucked. it keeps people from spoiling stuff in comments.

  • Bob Timmermann

    Can’t we now, for lack of any better terms, call Alison Janney’s character “Eve” and Titus Welliver “Adam?”

  • des1989

    While I think Lost needed an episode to explain the origins of Jacob and MiB, I agree that this wasn’t particularly well done. Not enough focus on the right things, if you ask me.

    Even worse, the writers didn’t tie this in with where the last episode ended. They did the opposite with the Richard Alpert centric episode, which was entirely a flashback, but bookended by a plot set in the present time…this kept things grounded.

    Why, in other words, was it necessary to see this story now? We just saw Sayid, Sun and Jin die, and your telling me that this is more important?

  • muffinjunky

    4.1. I don’t know since Adam & Eve were husband/wife or a couple….it seems kinda strange to consider Esau and killer mom as Adam & Eve. Don’t think it really applies here.

  • muffinjunky

    I agree, totally LOVED the episode. I think there are ALOT of us Losties who really needed those answers mentioned. My family always assumed it was Rose & Bernard were Adam & Eve and somehow remained in 1977 at wich time they would’ve been dead 30yrs later. So now we’re still waiting for the explanation of where Rose & Bernard are.

    But being so involved in the show over the years and not being able to move on to other issues and questions without alot of those answers sometimes can be frustrating. Knowing that Esau (MIB) was not “evil incarnate” and started out as a boy who wanted to leave the island to know and understand where he came from answers alot of mysteries.

    We also see that the “protectors” of the island can sometimes be as “cruel and deadly” as the others on the island. It’s interesting that “Killer Mom” mentions to the boys that when the “others” come to the island they kill, destroy & corrupt, etc. etc. but she does the same things! She murders, deceives and destroys showing Esau (MIB) that she is no better than the others she tried to protect the boys from!

    It appears that despite the show leading us to believe it is a battle between good/evil, you learn tonight that this wasn’t the case with Jacob & Esau(MIB).

    It wasn’t a battle between good/evil, instead one force The Guardian/Protector protecting and watching over another force which I’m guessing maybe some sort of Electromagnetic Force or Anti-Matter or Source of Life, etc., that if released will in itself cause death and destruction upon mankind.

    You also see that both boys loved each other and even though Esau (MIB) chose to leave to be with the “others” he longed to have his brother by his side! This showed that there wasn’t always a rivalry and hatred between them that there was during season5 episodes. Once has to admit that after being held prisoner by someone for two thousand years, you can kinda grow tired of their company. So, i think it was nice and refreshing to have those answers provided.

  • macevangelist

    So maybe I should change my name finally to Lostevangelist… after I converted more folks to Lost than macs in the last 5 years. I loved Across, for a couple of reasons. And the placement was perfect for me, a breather after all the drama last week, and the endgame approaching so fast now. And no, I didn’t like the AdamEve explanation cutback either, but I guess neither did Damon and Carlton. But of course not all of the audience last night were hardcore Losties like us. I was so immersed by her tale that I really couldn’t remember that I knew Allison Janney from Westwing! And now we need another flashback Jamie, showing us how she came to the island, haha. Across worked for me in explaining the brothers backgrounds and motivations, and yes, Jacob is not the shining hero anymore. He was as reluctant to take the job as Jack was… and he stayed with crazy mum even if his gung ho brother was the favorite son.
    We finalyy saw the origin of the famous roman dagger, which gives us an idea who these shipwrecked builders of magnetic wells were. I guess the greek egyptians came later, building Tawaret and cutting pictures of Smokey in stone.

    I wonder if the temple was build on the source of glowing light, and if Jack has to drink from the same bottle of wine on the 23rd?

  • That Guy

    I’m sure most people would be angry with having 2 or so episodes about Jacob and Esau explaining their long, long history. It seems that even among the “Gods” the same things are done as among humans.

    As for the Mother, I thought the way she died rather odd. She was in pain after JUST getting stabbed then died suddenly. My guess is that she couldn’t die or kill herself being the protector and all. You need a character like Esau or even Ben to kill you. Why she wanted to die, probably because of the crimes she has committed and that she has lived for a long, long time.

    As for Darth Vader, he had 3 movies of back story explained after the 3 original movies. People were much less enthusiastic about it after the fact then you are now I would say. More so, Vader had people that know about him. Jacob has no one. With the way Lost tells its stories it forces itself to go right to the source.

  • http://djtrudeau.wordpress.com djtrudeau

    I’ve been collecting comics for years and this episode reminds me of something that happens when you’re getting the monthly issues versus reading collections. When you’re reading a long storyline over several issues, you sometimes get one that disappoints you when you read it as a single issue but it works when you look at the storyline as a whole.

    I appreciate knowing that Jacob and Smokey are more human than we were led to believe. Seeing Jacob not being the “all knowing” character for a while made him a better character.

    That said, I ended last night feeling like I spent too long with the flashback. As mentioned above, I might not feel the same way when looking at the show as a whole.

    I’m also not convinced that Smokey is Esau. My original theory was that Smokey is a primal force that absorbs the electromagnetic field/consciousness of a person who died without hope, becoming like that person. Earlier episodes have backed that up and I don’t know that this one proved me wrong.

  • macevangelist

    Hmm… mum told Jacob that a fate worse than death waits down there in the light… and Esau was obviously dead. So it’s possible that Smokey, that demon guarding the underworld, is not Esau, but used him as a sleeve like he used Lockes dead body. And he was stuck with Esaus form like he is now stuck with Locke. On the other hand SmokeyLocke still just wants to leave the island as hard as Esau wanted this, while still alive. So maybe Esau was transformed into Smokey, but is still the same soul, or that entity from below has some still some Esau residue stuck between its smokey teeth.

    Just like he carries some Locke personality with him these days…

  • http://swarheit.wordpress.com swarheit

    I think part of the issue some may be having with the episode is its placement (i.e. there’s only 3.5 hours to go, and a lot of loose ends still out there, so spending an entire hour, of what seems to be time that is rapidly slipping away, from all of our main characters was a bit much) but I think it was an episode the show had to do, and provided answers about the broader mythology which was crucial to a lot of people who watch the show.

    Had this episode been earlier in the season (so we knew we had more time with “our” characters) or had we not wasted episodes earlier this season (like Kate’s sideways-episode), I think people may feel better about it.

    My issue was, and I really liked the episode, was I felt it left so many open questions about the MIB/Jacob relationship, and what happened after MIB became the black smoke (Allison Janney said it best when she said every question just leads to another question) that I know probably won’t get answered because the next and last 3.5 hours have to focus on our core characters and the sideways world.

  • thebro88

    I disagree on the flashback to Jack, Kate, and Locke’s discovery of Adam and Eve. I thought the scene would have been much more richer if it hadnt explicitly reminded viewers what they were witnessing. I figured the show had crossed the point of spoon feeding the casual fan sometime last season. Although, it did help jog the memories of some of the people I was watching the show with.
    I would have liked to have seen this episode much earlier in the show’s run, like 2~3 seasons ago. Not when we have precious few hours left with the main characters.

  • Kemper

    Odd episode, and I think half the reason people are peeved is that near the end of the series, they dedicated an entire episode that featured none of the core characters, except in the flashback.

    But from a story stand point, it had to take place here, after Smokey Locke tried to kill the candidates on the sub. So they wrote themselves into a bit of a corner.

    I’m a fan of the character drama and the sci fi. And the geek part of me was thrilled with the explanations of the donkey wheel and skeletons. But the paranoid fanboy me in me despaired that we still don’t know the exact nature of the battle between Jacob and Smokey. We’ve got hints and guesses, and we can assume a lot, but they spent a whole episode on Jacob and Smokey and we still don’t have the whole story. And now we’ve got added questions about the light and the origin of the Mom. If all the explanation we get ends up being about some anima style Earth/life force glowing light, I’m going to be seriously P.O.’d.

    I think that the finale may be the mother of all flashbacks: Jacob’s story of how he trapped Smokey, the rules they agreed to, and the long history of testing people and how it culminated with the 815 folks. (And resolve sideways world.) If they deliver that in a satisfying way, then this episode was necessary to set up the final story. If this was the final word on Jacob and Smokey’s history, then it was a serious mistake.

  • hester2

    I’m going to have to agree with Macevangelist. I don’t think Smokey is Jacob’s brother; that’s why they showed the body. Smokey is whatever that thing in the cave was, “life, death, and rebirth” or whatever. Maybe it takes on the form of whoever tried to harness it, and because MIB was both a murderer and had been killed by violent means, the “light” became an evil presence, possibly even “death” itself.

    Jacob was tasked with keeping that presence on the island, and now that it turned into the smoke monster, his job is to keep Smokey on the island.

  • jremigio

    I’d agree that this is a poorly placed episode and further suggest that those of us who didn’t really like it are frustrated that we’re having to wait two weeks between episodes that deal with the main storylines.

    But when I imagine people watching Lost for the first time on DVD where entire seasons play out more like one long episode, “Across the Sea” will fit in more seamlessly for them.

  • jam1ej20

    I am now more convinced that the MIB is the smoke monster. All of the talk of a crazy mother a few episodes ago really seemed to be explained here. Also, I’m not convinced that young MIB was dead only because their mother said that she had made it so that they could do no harm to each other. Therefore Jacob could not kill his brother…send him down the well, different story.

  • evizle

    Yeah, this episode felt odd. Did I dislike it? Not really. But they I didn’t really like it either. It was just kindof an info dump. Remember that episode in the last season of BSG where Sam had been shot in the head and got his memories back and started telling the back story of the Final Five? It felt like that. A lot of exposition and not much else.

    I think this episode wouldn’t have felt so weird if they treated as an early Lost style episode: have the Island storyline be about what Smokey is doing and flashback to his childhood/mother. That would’ve put more character into this episode.

  • jam1ej20

    Smokey still being Jacob’s brother also still jives with the MIB’s line this season where he says Jacob stole his body. I think the MIB/Jacob’s brother/the smoke monster are all still the same person/entity.

  • Kemper

    One more point about what I think is contributing to some of the grumbling. It’s the final season but for all Darlton’s talk about character being the most important thing, it feels like we aren’t getting nearly enough of our faves.

    Juliet dead in the premiere. (Thanks again, V!)Desmond was only showed halfway through the season and has been MIA since tossed down the well. Sun underused and not even speaking English for part of the time. Ben hasn’t been seen in several episodes. LIkewise guys like Richard and Miles. (And why highlight Richard in an entire episode only to have him practically vanish afterwards.)

    If Lost is such a character show, how come so many characters have vanidshed?

  • macevangelist

    …which would be a perfect explanation for the episodes placement as 6 | 15!

  • macevangelist

    …to give us all a perfect ending!

  • archstanton68

    What the hell was that? I’m firmly on the sci-fi side of Lost, so it’s no surprise that I rate that as the single worst episode of Lost. It’s also among the worst hours of TV I’ve watched this year. No matter what we expect from the show, and whichever side we take in the sci-fi/mystical debate, we all at least expect the show to be interesting. This episode was just painfully boring.

  • lazwell

    The more I see of MIB and Jacob, the more I am reminded of Ralph and Sam (Wolf and sheepdog from the looney tunes). The wolf was Ralph, I therefore propose that MIB’s official name be Ralph.

  • macevangelist

    EWs Jeff Jensen, Lost theorist extraordinaire, points us back to Hermann Hesses ‘Das Glasperlenspiel’.

    He is still full of surprises.

  • mimsysnark

    I couldn’t agree more with your analysis of this episode, though I wasn’t able to explain it as well as you did. This was honestly the only episode this whole season that has left me cold.

    The only thing I appreciated was the re-introduction of some moral ambiguity to Jacob’s & Smokey’s characters, as I’ve been arguing with my friends all season that they can’t be just good vs. evil, since Lost doesn’t work that way; and then Cuselof had to announce that, basically, I was dead wrong.

    One minor point that ended up being the most annoying/distracting element for me last night was the writers’ insistence on not revealing the MIB’s real name. Up until now, it made sense not to, but to see him as just a normal boy interacting with family who he calls by their names and yet nobody ever uttered his? It was just so unnatural, and pointless.

  • Dave

    Sadly, I’ve only got a quick minute, but here are my two cents:

    First, I liked the episode. I’m a big fan of the Jacob/MIB story, and I don’t mind that they just introduced them. (I also happen to believe that the showrunners had the brothers-and-their-mother thought out from the start, and that Adam and Eve were the brother that wasn’t running things and the mother.)

    For those that didn’t like it as much, I think James put it very well. I really hope the last 3.5 hours of Lost give this one a lot of strength. I’m losing hope that all the hours they’ve thrown at the fake timeline will be validated, but I think this episode will play well with the overall mythology.

    I like the idea that Mother was also a Smokey, but I agree, the question of the bodies is a good one. Maybe Mother had her own body because she was alive when she went into the cave, and MIB didn’t because he was dead going into it. (Also, is that why Smokey said Jacob stole his body? Or was he just trying to deceive Richard?)

    One thing I was hoping for from this episode was a sense of how the candidates are chosen, but maybe that’s just part of the mystery of the protector.

    I suspect that they’re going to play the line that Mother was the protector because she was the only one available. Jacob was chosen and given the gifts needed to be the protector to choose the final, proper protector.

  • Dave

    I think this reflects my own feelings very well. For all the great characters they’ve created and developed, why are we seeing so much Kate, Jack, and Sawyer, when we’d rather be seeing so many of the characters you listed.
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    I think they’re going to try to emotionally go back to Sawyer and Juliet meeting in the fake timeline either in the next episode or the finale, but it won’t go over well, because Sawyer has reverted so much as a character this season. Season 1 Sawyer was good in Season 1. After Season 5 Sawyer, I don’t want any more of Season 1 Sawyer.

  • http://blog.melanism.com Seanathan

    Let’s just pretend this episode never happened. There have been bad episodes of Lost before (The Jack tattoo one for example) and “Across the Sea” wasn’t a bad episode – well-filmed, acted, nice little Aesop fable (sans a moral) – but I don’t think I’ve ever been more disappointed in an episode of Lost. Listen, I’m a huge Lost apologist. Even episodes that my friends have hated, I’ve been able to find a redeeming quality in but “Across the Sea” just left me baffled. If this was episode three of the final season, I might not have been that perturbed by this episode but at this late stage of the game (two episodes left), this episode left me with so many questions that a) I think are important and b) I’m 85% sure we won’t get the answer to. At no point during “Across The Sea” are the motivations of Mother (Allison Janney) EVER made clear and since her actions appear to be the driving force for the entire battle between Jacob and MIB, I find that to be extremely problematic. At the end of the episode, I commiserated with MIB because we both have no idea why he’s not allowed to leave the island. Jacob and MIB represent the two types of Lost fans: those who are willing to accept the show despite its flaws for love (Jacob) and those who want answers and, in not getting them, get frustrated and get angry (MIB). After tonight, I think I’m rooting for MIB.

    After sleeping on it, I think the biggest problem was we FINALLY had a character (MOTHER) who appeared to have all the answers we sought about the nature of the island and she didn’t give us any of them. They all died with her.

  • originalray

    It was a mumbo jumbo-laden waste of time, and Allison Janney was terrible. The fact that she can be so good in other roles, and was atrocious last night, really shows how important writing and directing are.

  • nycscott

    Man I was looking forward to reading this article today and all you do is WHINE the whole time James like a kid who didn’t quite get what they want for Christmas. Yeah it wasn’t the best episode but wow.

  • mrbilliam

    I’m not convinced that it couldn’t have taken place halfway through the season. I actually think it would have made more sense for Smokey’s big evil move (which established him as unambiguosly bad) to take place AFTER this episode, which seemed to display his actions as more ambiguos.

  • denisemorris

    I’m guessing that 2,000 years ago on a remote island they weren’t up on all of the politically correct terms of today.

  • vlady37

    This week’s episode was like a bad version of “Ab Aeterno” for me. AA was entirely flashback-based and focused on a character we weren’t introduced to until later in the series, but it was still able to be interesting and it answered questions without being corny.

    Last night’s episode completed slowed down the momentum that they had started to build this season. Who’d have thought that the stepmom from “Juno” would get an entire episode devoted to her?

  • madmatt86

    Alas, another mystery solved: How the women on the Island shave their legs!

    That goes along pretty well with the “real” questions that got answered in this episode. It’s information, but it’s value can be questioned. So now we know how MiB became Smokey. MAGIC! And we know how Jacob became the protector. MAGIC! (or a cup of wine with some whistled words…)

    I’m glad we got answers, but why are these answers so disturbing? Wasn’t the island supposed to be a prison just a few episodes ago? Now it’s more like a dungeon with a hidden treasure. That would explain Widmore’s motives (he wants more, more, more…).
    I also don’t understand how MiB or rather Boy in Black was so fascinated by the “light” and apparently wanted “more” of it, but in the end it was just a means for him to get off the island. Otherwise he could care less about it.

    What I didn’t like at all was the humanisation of Jacob and MiB. Wise Jacob turning into a mentally slow, but physically strong peasant. MiB being “special”, just like Desmond. Do they have a connection or what is that supposed to mean? Desmond is special because “the rules don’t apply to him”. Guess what, the only one who seems to have to follow rules is MiB. Special? And how exactly can Jacob simply create rules for Smokey to follow, just like Mother made it so that they couldn’t hurt each other (except, you know, bashing his head in and letting his body float into a cave and stuff…)

    If the writers left some questions to be solved with MAGIC! why didn’t they leave Jacob and MiB as the demi-gods they were? As ideas, rather than persons. Now we have to ask, what is the light? Where does Mother come from, what did she know, and who goes around giving people the power to see dead people? We’re right back at the very start of LOST: What IS the Island???

    One thing that got confirmed for me personally is that Jacob stands for religion/faith or the mystical side. MiB is science. He wants to reach a goal by all means, he lies if necessary, he cares about other people, yet isn’t above killing, he wants to get everything, even bringing back dead people (hi, Nadia). He’s all humanity’s strengths and weaknesses. I thought of that after JP asked how exactly the world would turn into a darker place if MiB got free (as opposed to what?). My answer would be that science without morale would be to blame. Just imaging cloning people, creating weapons for the hell of it etc.
    Good to have Jacob/God or whatever watching from above and seeing our “progress”, right?

  • samfetchero

    Great write-up James. You captured many of my thoughts and questions during the episode. Can’t wait for the finale.

    http://www.pacificnorthwestcoastbias.com

  • Frugal Gal

    I am in the camp that Smokey is NOT Jacob’s brother (who I will call “Brother,” because that’s what Jcob called him).

    It makes no sense for the boys’ birth mother, Claudia, to appear as a ghost to Brother only, and to show him the original “Others.” All appearances by dead people have been a) seen by Hurley, or b) something Smokey did. We were given no reason to think that Brother shared that talent with Hurley — it’s more likely that the image of Claudia was done by Smokey. Which means Smokey predates Brother’s death in the Inverse Waterfall of Light.

    Claudia’s appearance seemed to happen SPECIFICALLY to separate the brothers and break up the family. Why would a mere ghost want that? It makes much more sense that Smokey did it as way of sewing much more discord between the brothers. Smokey NEEDED some sort of murder to happen with those kids — maybe kill each other before the next guardian was actually named. Instead of a sub, Smokey used sibling discord.

    I don’t believe that Mother was Smokey, either. I have NO IDEA how she killed all those people (magic?) but she seemed firmly convinced that going into the cave would make something VERY bad happen — the release of Smokey.

    Mother was the guardian of the island — put there by who, or why, no idea. But I agree that she was nuts. I think she took those kids with the purpose of raising her replacement. When Brother forced her hand by threatening to leave the island, she did the wine-and-Latin mumbo-jumbo and made Jacob (wuss that he apparently is) the new guardian. It was only then that she was able to die.

    I am trying to get the Waterfall of Good Light to jibe with the “cork in the wine bottle.” Is it so simple that the water rushing down the hole was enough to keep the more malevolent manifestation of Smokey trapped? And when Jacob sent his brother down the waterfall, that it, I don’t know, stopped the flow long enough for the smokey part of Smokey to get out, leaving the fullness of his “darkness” still in the hole?

    Smokey needs a dead body to manifest as anything other than smoke. It makes sense that he would use Brother’s — good way to try and manipulate Jacob. And I think Smokey definitely takes on parts of Brother’s personality, but not all of it. As much as Brother wanted off the island (something he had in common with Smokey), I DO believe he loved Jacob. That love did not transfer into Smokey like other parts of Brother did.

    I found it interesting that while Mother was all about “You can’t leave the island,” and “You have no choice,” Jacob apparently left the island a lot — and he was always telling people that they had a choice.

    I have no idea what any of that has to do with a Sideways world. Maybe that’s for next week.

    I agree that the ep was necessary, but I also had a hard time enjoying it. First, having Allison Janney in that role COMPLETELY took me out of it. I would have MUCH preferred an unknown actress. Second, I think that after last week, I wanted to see the four survivors greiving, particularly Sawyer.

  • http://www.thesmogger.com Michael

    With just less than two weeks to go, there are still so many questions we have for this show that we love so much. “Across the Sea” gave some good answers – I thought the Adam & Eve and creation of the monster were interesting and good, but as a whole, the episodes this season have failed to tie everything together. Last night was no exception. There is so much left to explain, and so many loose ends to tie up- how are they going to give us all these answers in just 2 episodes? I’m starting to get very, very nervous- http://thesmogger.com/2010/05/11/looking-at-lost-summarizing-the-mysteries/

  • denisemorris

    Well, I was pretty bored while watching this episode, but I am easily swayed, so after talking with friends and reading the blogs, I am liking it more. :-)

    I do think that the episode will probably make more sense within the context of the series as a whole.

    I think my main issue with the episode is that I’m one of the people who doesn’t mind the mystery of Lost. The mystery is what has made the show what it is. I fully expect and hope that the series will end with some mystery. So, when we get a Jacob/MIB episode that explains the “light” (which seemed corny) or shows them traipsing barefoot through the jungle for an hour (seemingly just to show how they became who they are), it just doesn’t feel like Lost. When they start to just give us plain old answers it seems too simple. I guess it just didn’t feel like the show I love.

    The glowing cave seemed corny to me, but I am definitely OK with some mix of spiritual symbolism and scientific electromagnetism. That’s what LOST is — science and faith.

    I’m not sure why/how I totally loved Ab Aeterno and didn’t love this one. They both had a similar feel.

    I do really like Titus WhatsHisName as the MIB. He does a great job.

    Oh, and after seeing this episode it made me not want Jack or any of our characters to become the new Jacob. It seems like such a sad and lonely job. So, I think they should kill Smokey and maybe just destroy the island altogether or something.

    @James, I really liked your write-up. Thanks!!

  • Tom Shaw

    You’ve hit the nail on the head with the divisiveness of the episode: people were surprised when the show shifted gears to the allegorical / philosophical.

    Of course, the real problem is that people weren’t paying attention, as Lost has been setting up the allegorical elements for years now:

    First, by pruning the cast down to parents, such that their decisions are no longer personal, but rather cultural.
    Second, by setting up the alt-verse vs original recipe universe as competing ethics.

    So did we learn “facts” last night? Not really: sure, they are brothers, but we already knew they grew up together from the young age of ghost-Jacob. We learned that Smokey is primarily energy – but we already knew that from the magnetic deformation of bullets in the season opener.

    So no, I was not surprised that Esau was not named. He will never be named, as the conflict is of Self vs. The Other. No, I was not surprised that the buried power source of The Island was the same stuff in the briefcase in Pulp Fiction (an intentional homage, I think), as it is The Prize, The Boon – whatever man will fight his fellow man for (power/women/land/money).

    The only thing that surprised me was that they shifted gears to the allegorical this early, as I thought that would be limited to the series finale that Darlton themselves have admitted will be divisive. Things will only get more allegorical from here.

    (Actually, I was intrigued by one thing last night: that the new Esau would appear to be Hurley, from their shared vision abilities. The meek shall inherit.. The Island?)

  • rosseau

    Exactly what I was thinking. We would like for them to be brothers–it would be more dramatically interesting, more Cain and Abel–but the evidence suggests otherwise. As you said, it would explain Claudia’s ghost and the long con meant to kill Mother, Smokey’s guard, since it can’t do it itself. Same idea it used in taking up Locke’s body to manipulate Ben into killing Jacob.

  • ellesk

    Divisive might be putting it mildly… I was on the imdb boards right after the episode and I don’t think I’ve seen an episode garner such a bad reaction since Jack’s tattoo episode (which, personally, I found less offensive). I think the problem with this episode was, overall, timing… but also a severe lack of direction and relevant explanation.
    I’m one of those people who’s curious about Jacob/MIB/the island… of course, I’m much more invested in the characters and would rather see a character resolution rather than an overarching island resolution, but the show has gotten so far away from its core that it’s impossible to be fully satisfied without broad answers. The problem wasn’t (entirely) that they ignored the Losties, but that this episode didn’t actually answer *anything * – apart from Adam & Eve, which they beat us over the head with (what happened to subtlety, Lost? You used to love it).
    They’ve essentially just replaced one idea for another, corporeal one. Instead of “the island did it,” you now have “Mommy Dearest did it.” Great… but who is she? Why does she know what she knows? Where does she come from? Why does she think all men are evil? Telling us the island is special because of some mystical light (also, I did not think the show would fall prey to literal religious explanation) isn’t any more informative than saying the island is special. Saying that MIB is special because Mommy Dearest told him doesn’t give us any actual insight into WHY he’s special. It was almost the same with Richard’s former mystery… we know it related to Jacob, and all Ab Aeterno did was confirm that, yes, it was Jacob… but it didn’t explain the why or the how.
    They’ve also completely muddled up MIB & Jacob as characters overall. MIB isn’t one-note, which I like, but I don’t understand his purpose anymore. To be honest, the “game” they’re playing has no credence because it seems like Jacob was the one averse to people whereas MIB embraced them, despite their flaws (whether it be because he valued their intellect, scientific advancement, etc.). The only person he should really have a grudge against is Jacob, since he’s the one who committed the worst act of all. So why the need to prove that people are good? When did MIB think otherwise? And what does that have to do with his being trapped on the island? What *would* happen if he were released… he doesn’t seem to have any real vendetta other than trying to go to where he believes is “home,” which, as it were, seems to be amongst “people” and not these bizarre, pseudo demi-gods.
    Lost has also completely given up on consistency, it seems. Though they pointlessly showed us the Adam & Eve scene from season 1, it seems that they could have done with rewatching it themselves. Jack said that the bodies were about 50 years old, and though I realize he’s a doctor and not an archaeologist, I imagine the difference between 50 and 1,500 would be apparent. On top of that, what happened to the Egyptian iconography? Where does the smoke monster as judgment system/island security system play in? Why is Smokey trapped as Locke? How is the light simultaneously life, death, rebirth and a means of time travel? And where does all this fit in with the alternate timeline and what Desmond is “trying to do,” which isn’t apparent in and of itself.
    Perhaps if this episode was presented in an earlier season, I’d be annoyed, but not as rip-my-hair-out-of-my-head-angry/disappointed as I was last night. I want to have faith in this show, I really do, but I just don’t see how they can create a satisfying, encompassing ending in the 3 remaining hours.

  • rosseau

    Okay, so when I was a kid, somehow I had this book on Native American myths and legends.(I think used book sale). WIth pictures, this book would describe the various creation myths of the world each tribe had. If I remember, the world being supported by a turtle (that could be another group’s myth, I don’t remember that well). But this episode felt like my book: it was specifically vague because they wanted to create a deliberate myth. Thus the simple dialogue (“What is death?”), the small cast and how each responded to their Other–other people. Seeing C.J Cregg as homicidal, freaky WItchy Woman was the most shocking thing about the epside–and great bit of memorable casting with Allison Janney to play really a role that would have gotten criticism whoever played her.

    What do we find out about her? Not much, except she is perhaps the original candidate, the first protector of the Island and the first guardian of it’s force–electromagnetic, spiritiual, Smokey in your eyes. I don’t see MIB now as MIB then. As others have said upstream, I think Smokey was there already, took on original mom’s shape in an effort to divide the family, and eventually get one son to kill it’s guard so that it can escape. That it and MIB have the same goal is a bit of misdirection on the producer’s part and also why it appears as MIB through time. But it is not the brother. It also killed all of MIB’s new friends which led him to directly kill his mother. (Do you think an old woman could have by herself filled up a well and killed many very fit men by herself?)

    Smokey is the temptation Mother has to protect from all men. It is power, greed, desire, Marcellus Wallace’s briefcase, a glowing MacGuffin that the writers should not even explain further one bit. Let the mythology actually contain the indeterminancy of actual myth. We’ll get back to the beloved characters next week. I liked this episode just fine.

    There’s another influence on Lost, or rather two, that I just picked up, well that I thought of and which really aren’t influences. The trivial and hilarious one is Ivan Reitman’s Twins. You know the story of two very unlike identitical twins. One is raised on an island in perfect splendor and grows up a beacon of a good man while the other is abandoned to and in the world to become a bit of a scoundrel. In that movie, they look for their mother. The other influence this season, starting with Richard’s episode has reminded me of is the old Twilight Zone episode where a lost European traveller finds a castle and is taken in by a white bearded old man who tells him not to open a certain door in the castle or the Devil will escape. He listens to the prisoner who with silver tongue proclaims his innocence and gets the guy to open the door, thus unleashing evil unto the world again. This is what Lost has been lately.

  • http://djtrudeau.wordpress.com djtrudeau

    Also note that when his “mother” appeared to him as a ghost, she had the cave glow around her. I took it as the Smoke Monster trying to manipulate things to release itself through killing of the brother’s hope, then leading to his death in the cave. This allowed Smokey to absorb the brother’s energy (and some personality) and be released.

    One of the reasons I hang on to the Smokey isn’t the brother theory so hard is the previous episode when Jack asks him how many other people he’s looked like and he smiles.

  • tyrantking

    Hated the Harry Potter 7 for making the entire series turn on the Deathly Hallows which conveniently weren’t really introduced as a thing until Book 7, and really don’t like the fact that the entire series of Lost is going to turn on Jacob. Felt like a waste of one of the precious last hours of lost. I mean it didn’t even have the Losties in it. Couldn’t they have filmed this for the extended bonus edition of the DVD set?

  • John Cloud

    Top of your game here, Jim. This, for instance, is a very perceptive line: “it’s as if you had suddenly stuck an chunk of Medea in the middle of a Chekhov play.”

    And as much as I want to disagree with your overall take on “Across the Sea,” just because I love to disagree, I can’t. Cuse and Lindeloff have long said on their podcast that it would be ridiculous for them not to answer certain key questions. But all of their silly webisode things, all of their behavior at Comic-Con, every time they give an interview—they *hate* answering questions about the mythology. (As a fellow writer, I suspect that’s because for most of the time, they hadn’t yet worked out the answers. I know how to send a cryptic e-mail to my editors that writes around the reporting I haven’t done and scolds the editors for even asking.)

    And so I think they conceived of this weird, ethereal, mother-earth, Latinate—and, to borrow your perfect word, “pre-psychological”—episode as a way to answer certain questions they found compelling (who were Adam and Eve? what is the significance of the stones that Locke showed Walt on the beach way back?) but to do it in a way that felt authentic to them.

    But right away, in the first few frames, we get Allison Janney telling the boys’ mother that she essentially won’t answer questions. Cuse and Lindeloff are the “mother earth” of Lost, and this is kind of their fuck-you: stop asking.

    This is just an aside, but I also doubt they would have pursued this episode’s forest-gnome-weird-light-Lord-of-the-Rings nonsense if Avatar hadn’t been such a giant success. There’s a lot of mother-earth bullshit in Avatar that apparently went down just fine with the movie-going public.

    Anyway, I do think the kid actors did a fine job, and Janney—well, she managed to keep a straight face, God bless her. And like many other commenters here, I actually DID want to know who Adam and Eve were. I grew up in a Bible-loving household, and when a series is going to introduce Adam and Eve, I want to know what they mean. I just think the answer could have been delivered faster.

    Finally, on MIB: of course he is evil. But I suppose we’re now meant to believe that Jacob is also a pretty bad guy—a guy so weak he lives for centuries to do the bidding of a woman who killed his mother. Why would he do that? Because he had a drink of wine? Must be strong stuff. I’ll have what he’s having.

  • madmatt86

    I think Mother made it clear that going into the cave would be “worse than death”, thus it’s worse on a subjective level, as in you TURN into (a) Smokey. Not that Smokey gets released.

    I’m also fairly certain Mother wasn’t a Smokey. She knew herself around MAGIC!, and as guardian she’s simply invulnerable, like UnLocke in Human form. He was a killer with neck-snapping and shooting even without relying on his smoke form.

  • dwhitcomb

    This is a very impressive theory about what we saw last night and my personal favorite from all the theories I’ve read about the significance of the episode. I would love to see this proven true.

  • timshel1112

    I really like your theories/interpretations, save for one thing: I don’t think Smokey killed those original Others and filled in the well. He couldn’t have, because he wasn’t released yet.

  • http://jgirlie99.wordpress.com jgirlie99

    I, personally, think this was done fairly well. After the last few episodes, we were absolutely convinced that MIB was purely ill-intentioned (the sub), and that Jacob was all-good, rather omnibenevolent, I’d say. Now we know better, and I think the delivery was perfect: seeing his humanity and not-so-bad-naturedness right after an incident which we thought was defining… makes for good tv =) I really think the divinity issue would have bothered me, it was a little too biblical if you ask me, the whole Jesus vs. Satan thing… even if the biblical undercurrents are still there, at least now it seems to be focusing on Jacob as Jesus the man and not Jesus the divine son of God type of thing. I think the character development for these obviously important characters made Across the Sea paramount in importance. The whole solving of the Adam and Eve mystery seems more like icing on the cake rather than the meat of the episode itself. I loved Allison Janney’s line, even though it’s kind of a wake-up call that not all of our questions will be answered in the less than four hours that remain. Saaad panda. Or Polar bear, whatever.

  • frank1569

    For two seasons, I’ve trying to point out that Smokey is ‘good’ and Jacob is ‘bad.’ And, even up to last week, everyone and their Mother told me I was dead wrong.

    Here’s a key: in ‘Watership Down,’ the book Sawyer’s reading in both Timelines, the ‘evil smoke monster’ kills the ‘bad’ bunnies and saves ‘the good.’

    But the bunnies don’t get it until it happens. Now, think: lying, scheming Mother is a mass murderer, yet she warns the Others are corrupt liars and manipulators. Jacob ‘made’ Ben into a mass murderer, not Smokey. Smokey saved Richard (amongst many others,) and, quite possibly, granted him eternal life. Etc. Look back – where has Smokey ever been truly evil? He led Jack to water, remember? But it was Jacob who let Ilana die, it was Jacob who killed Sayid’s wife in order to manipulate Sayid, it was Jacob who had Michael murder Ana Lucia and Libby… but Jacob couldn’t kill Richard because… he was granted eternal life by Smokey…

    Last night, up until his flume ride, Smokey was still trying to save Jacob. That is not an evil soul. And look who’s now trying to stop Smokey – evil Widmore, evil Eloise, etc. There are no ‘good’ souls trying to stop him. And that’s the LAX Timeline – that’s the one that asks, ‘What if Smokey DID get off the Island? (Answer per Widmore/Richard: all of this – the Island Timeline – would cease to exist. The Timeline where evil reigns would cease to exist…)

    Smokey is Jessica Rabbit: he’s not bad, he’s just drawn that way.

  • bricomedy

    Everything in this episode pays off later. Don’t believe me? http://howlostends.com

  • popculturehaiku

    “Everyone” is a “politically correct term of today”?

  • jeia56

    My two cents:

    I agree with many of the above posters about this being a poorly timed episode. Don’t get me wrong, I liked this episode. I didn’t love it like I thought I would, it just seemed to be missing… something.

    Although, after I think about it, I think that the divisiveness of this episode plays right into the hands of one of the statements that Darlton may be trying to say with Lost. I firmly agree with what Doc Jensen writes over at EW, about Lost being about finding intrigue, mystery and meaning in a world that is seemly become more and more devoid of this. In an age where religious/spiritual belief seems to be declining and atheistic, science based philosophies are becoming more and more popular, I believe the creators of Lost are trying to make the case that religion/spirituality will always have their place in the world.

    Now, I’m a fairly spiritual person, so yes, you could say that I’m a little biased, but at the same time, season four was and always will be my favourite season of Lost precisely because of the time-travel, quantum physics based storylines that the season introduced.

    During this episode, my mind flashed (hehe) to a quote from Hamlet: “There are more things in Heaven and Earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy.”
    I think that is precisely one of the main things tht Darlton are trying to say with Lost, and the division between the spiritual camp of Lost and the sci-fi camp of Lost plays right into their hands.

  • kjfisher

    OMG, A WIZARD DID IT! I’m going to call on that one for the rest of my life!

    Seriously though, this is a thoughtful and most welcome analysis, thanks. I still have a bazillion questions but am trying to be Zen about getting them “out there” because I realize that this is what I love about the show most of all (having it do a big bazinga on my brain each and every week).

  • maxtheax

    What makes you think she had the answers? She may have been simply passing on her paranoia of the unknown to the boys. Same thing happened to Desmond. He didn’t really know why needed to press the button, he just knew that he had to. He passed that paranoia on to Locke. I see a parallel.

  • randomcloud

    i too was worried about the dharma non-existence in the current arc of stories, but i’m putting it down to a science vs religion conflict – we have this belief system based around jacob & mib and we have modern scientists trying to refute and question it. just a thought, but it allows me to handle their co-existence in the plot.

    is anyone else finding that mib being referred to as ‘brother’ by jacob all the time significant. is desmond, who calls everyone ‘brother’ destined to become the new jacob?

    and i think it’s a shame that titus whassisname isn’t going to be in it anymore. despite terry o’quinn beig a great actor, i like tw just as much, but fear that this episode was the last we see of him.

    am sure i will have more thoughts later

  • randomcloud

    told you i’d have some more thoughts …. the whole cave of light was just too like a ‘tree of knowledge’.

    one the one hand we have sappy jacob unquestioning and accepting mother’s warnings, and on the othere there’s mib/kib wanting to know more.

    the adam & eve ref now seems much more apt. original sin, garden of eden and so on and so forth.

  • Dave

    I don’t think seeing dead people has to be either Smokey using them or Hurley seeing them. The obvious example is Kid Jacob we’re seeing right now – Smokey and, apparently, Candidates can see him, but Richard can’t. The other example that comes to mind is Ben seeing his mom inside the DI anti-Smokey fence.

  • denisemorris

    Yes.

  • denisemorris

    Randomcloud, I agree with you. I think it’s both science and faith that are getting equal airtime. If you think about it, pretty much all of season 5 was dedicated to science. There was tons of time travel and lots of time spent with Dharma. So now we’re getting a bit more of the spiritual side of Lost. It’s definitely both with Lost, and always has been.

  • http://chipstapleton.wordpress.com chipstapleton

    James, I love your breakdown that everything has to, in the end go back to Star Wars. As that is true for how most of us, of a certain age, think mythically.
    My one point of contention is that from a Star Wars prospective, telling Anakin’s backstory wasn’t the problem for the Star Wars prequels. The problem was the back story itself. Or to put a finer point on it, the telling of the back story.
    So, on that level I liked ‘Across the Sea’. I missed the emotional connection that I usually feel with everything LOST, but this back story does, I think, ‘work’.
    I just hope I still feel that way in two weeks.
    Thanks for all your great work.

  • Red Panda

    Please don’t compare the episode to the Star Wars prequels, because they did much more than just show Anakin Skywalker’s fall from grace, they opened up an entire universe that is still being populated today by more and more stories, across all media.

    Across The Sea opened up a story that we know will never be resolved, because there are only 3 episodes left.

  • Dave

    Across The Sea opened up a story that we know will never be resolved, because there are only 3 episodes left.

    Do you mean the Jacob-MIB story? Or the story about the Mother? I’m pretty sure the Jacob-MIB story is going to be resolved to the same extent that the series itself is resolved, and they told us that the Mother story won’t be resolved (every question will lead to another question).

  • Frugal Gal

    Question — has anyone been able to figure out the significance of the two versions of the cast photos that were released before the season started? The “Last Supper” photos?

    I looked back at them to see if I could make sense of them, given the deaths and Sidways world, etc. Still can’t.

  • lawrencetokill

    As a devoted story development pro in line with the classical Campbell/Spielberg/JJ tradition, I can say that if you hate the episode, it is because of bad storytelling and not because you can’t handle that the ‘answers’ are too artsy and complex, as apologists imply.

    The important parts of a story are those that affect the hero obtaining their clear goal. The only hero who cared about the nature of the island was Locke. He’s dead.

    Jack, Sawyer, Kate and Hurley are the only heroes left. Jack doesn’t care what the island is. He wants to stay out of faith. No one else cares. The nature of the island can be anything and it won’t change the story, which is now about Jack staying and the others leaving. The episode only concerned the nature of the island, and if it had been radically different, the heroes’ story would be the same.

    After the beginning, new rules that don’t affect story usually help break Aristotelian unity.

    Answers have always been vague. Why would fans hate that now?

  • lawrencetokill

    The comparison is valid because both share dramatic problems.

    And even in terms of mythologies and universes, the comparison is valid, because this episode also opens up the world of Lost to allow for other stories.

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