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Do You Care If Daily Show Staffers Wrote Jokes for Obama?

That, anyway, is the word from The Daily Beast’s Lloyd Grove, who reports that David Axelrod told him the Prez received jokes for his White House Correspondents’ Dinner standup from writers for The Daily Show. (For a review of Obama’s, and Jay Leno’s, performances, see this post from my colleague and history-of-comedy authority Richard Zoglin.)

[Update: According to Comedy Central, it was a single Daily Show writer, not writers plural, who contributed.]

Personally, it doesn’t bother me. That’s mainly because I thought Obama’s routine was funny. And that, in turn, is because I am a huge communist. It does raise the question, though, of what exactly TDS’s relationship is, or should be, to the kind of cozy press-politicos event that it generally satirizes.

Stephen Colbert, of course, satirized the event in person, by speaking at it in 2006 (and discomfiting the attending journos whom he basically called spineless). But arguably it’s a different thing to provide material for a speaker at the event, especially if that speaker is the President, whom your show also satirizes. Conservative media watchdog Newsbusters is already taking exception, and also criticizing the “fawning, gushing, swooning crowd” who ate the jokes up.

This is one of those situations, I guess, where that “we’re just a fake news show” line comes in handy. Still, fig leaves aside, we all know that TDS has become something more than just that over the years. I personally think they’ve dished enough fake-news jokes Obama’s way to deserve this, but when people start to take your show seriously as both a news source and a truth-teller, some people are going to want to hold you to real-news standards.

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  • charlieromeobravo

    TDS walks an interesting line in the media and I think much of the regular news media doesn’t really get that or understand what it is. The regular news media is basically treating TDS like it were a partisan liberal opinion show but that’s not what they’re doing. You can call me crazy, but I see the show as pretty non-partisan.

    Jon Stewart said once that The Daily Show does two things: they make fun of politicians when they’re acting ridiculous and they make fun of the media when they’re acting ridiculous. If you watch the show, you’ll see that’s exactly what they do. In dong that, Stewart sometimes plays the clown and sometimes he plays the outraged sensible citizen.

    The regular news media doesn’t seem to be able to wrap their heads around a show that doesn’t have a partisan position. TDS goes after MSNBC, just not as often as they do Fox. Fox presents themselves as a pretty easy target because they’re so blatantly agenda driven and / or comically wing-nutty. When you call yourself fair and balanced but behave the way they do, you’re putting yourself right in the cross hairs for guys like Stewart.

    Do I care if they write jokes for Obama? Not really. They’re comedians. Writing jokes is what they do. They probably would have done the same thing for John McCain 3 years ago when he still seemed sensible and still wanted to appear on the show.

  • olivececile

    I think TDS is somewhat partisan, in so much as Jon Stewart (and, presumably, most of his staff) appear to be socially liberal. But they don’t generally make jokes just about someone having an opinion they don’t share; they make jokes about someone holding a hypocritical opinion, or behaving buffoonishly while holding any opinion.

    I don’t understand the point of the Newsbusters piece – humor isn’t partisan. Some people will find Obama funny, some won’t – is he supposed to get his jokes from the people behind Fox and Friends? Seems like a non-issue to me. I’ve found McCain quite funny in the past (I don’t share his political views, generally), but Obama has a sly delivery that helps sell a joke. Good for him.

  • Dave

    Does it surprise me that TDS writers provided some material for the President? Not at all. As a moderate conservative who’s easily annoyed at media bias, does it outrage or even annoy me? Not at all. If Obama needed his shoes shined, would he ask Olberman or O’Reilly? Why would him getting his jokes from TDS writers be surprising or outraging?

  • That Guy

    It’s a comedy show so of course not.

  • http://gopchandani.wordpress.com/ Rakesh

    Nope. I don’t care. The Daily Show clearly has a liberal bias and maybe they are more than ‘just a comedy show’ but even then, the content of jokes that Obama used was not objectionable to me, regardless of who wrote it.

  • kimfromsj

    Dear Charlie,
    The point you made about The Daily Show is really right-on target. The position they are in at this point in time is very interesting. I appreciated your comment.

  • lylebot

    I guess there’s an underlying assumption that news outlets have an obligation to avoid conflicts of interest and report those that are unavoidable, and the question is whether the Daily Show counts as a news outlet. I happen to be one of those 18-to-49-year-olds that gets most of my news from the Daily Show and blogs, but since my sources make no attempt to hide their biases, I don’t really have a problem with them engaging in possible conflicts of interest. Speaking personally, I want to know about possible conflicts of interest when the outlet has pretensions to unbiased reporting; when the reporting is unabashadly biased, I don’t care so much.

  • kimfromsj

    I don’t have ANY problem with the President getting comedy writers to write jokes for a correspondence dinner in which he is expected to deliver jokes. That’s ALL it is. If it were a republican president, and they hired, say, Dennis Miller to write their jokes for the correspondence dinner, I wouldn’t have ANY problem with that either. What I DO have a problem with, is when the opposing political party or media tries to MAKE something of it that it’s NOT, and even tries to twist and exaggerate it into a big SCANDAL. Incidentally, I love The Daily Show. It’s the most fair and balanced news source on television.

  • http://moderate01.wordpress.com moderate01

    TDS is NOT journalism, regardless of how many twenty-somethings think it is or rely on it for news. It is a comedy show on a network called “Comedy Central.” So, if I were Obama and I were looking for the best comedy writers on the market with a Democrat’s point-of-view, then the first place I’d look is the TDS staff. Now, if Brian Williams was the writer, or even Kieth Olbermann, then I might raise an eyebrow – not at Obama, but at NBC and MSNBC.

  • chascar

    Human nature requires a politician to be a showman in order to get votes and backing. Wheather you like it or not, Politics is Show Business and most of the actors don’t always write their own lines.

  • chascar

    It’s entertainment, just like Fox News, except TDS tells the truth and that’s why it’s so damn funny. Let me go out on a limb here and guess you watch Fox News for the journalistic integrity.

  • http://erieangel.wordpress.com erieangel

    Seriously?? People are actually complaining about who wrote Obama’s jokes? Like he was supposed to write his own??
    .
    As for the debate about whether TDS is a comedy show or a news show, I look at this way. TDS is comedy that makes fun of both politicians and news media (mostly Fox News) and in doing so sometimes they hit upon a truth that no other show, no “real” news outlet manages to uncover.

  • Tom Shaw

    Am I surprised by this? No, TDS’ staff clearly skews liberal. (Please, spare me the “TDS is neutral!” defense. Does no one remember how much harsher the Kilborn-era TDS was on the Clinton administration? Or is it that most of TDS’ audience didn’t watch much Comedy Central back in grade school.)

    Am I disappointed by this? No, the TDS staff has the right to write material for whomever they like.

    Will I care the next time TDS comments that Fox News is the media wing of the Republican Party, when they’ve scripted the comments for the figurehead of the Democratic Party at a media event? Err, No, not so much.

  • rhys1882

    I think it awesome that he got really good comedy writers to write what is supposed to be a funny speech. The speech was hilarious. He definitely has good comedic timing like Zoglin points out.

  • Jim, Foolish Literalist

    I know Jay Leno wrote jokes for Clinton and has done the same for Schwarzenegger. I’d be more interested in knowing who wrote for Bush, and McCain. Just out of curiosity.

  • time2316

    If the writers at TDS had a heart, they would have written some material for Leno too.

  • bruingirl2001

    ummm were people expecting that obama write the jokes himself? most politicians who have to be funny like that hire comedy writers. it makes sense that obama hired tds writers because they make fun of everyone in that room on a daily basis. stewart may be liberal, but if you act like an idiot, he will make fun of you no matter who you are. and yes, he’s made fun of obama before as well as msnbc-he got olbermann to apologize to him (a very obnoxious apology i might add), as he does with many talking heads. the rick sanchez clip about volcanoes in iceland? that showed up on tds a few weeks ago.

  • bruingirl2001

    And if tds writters are gonna write jokes for Obama, the WHCA might as well hire jon stewart for next year. at least he’d be funny enough to follow obama.

  • ericnwinter

    Fox News can write the script for the entire conservative movement, so I don’t think we should begrudge The Daily Show writing a few one-liners for Obama!

  • nathan7777

    but when people start to take your show seriously as both a news source and a truth-teller, some people are going to want to hold you to real-news standards
    .
    Much in the same way they want to hold Fox News to real-news standards?

  • sjenner

    Let me begin by stating that I am a fan of TDS. I think John Stewart is intelligent and genuinely funny and an insightful interviewer. But, while I appreciate that TDS is “not a real news show,” I believe that line is used somewhat disingenuously. TDS is very serious about a lot of its – perhaps news is not the right term – but opinion certainly may be, even if it is often skimmed over with a little humor. Stewart sources his opinion well and obviously does a lot of reading, both of political philosophy and current news items in preparation for his show. That’s WHY people take him seriously. All said, however, Stewart’s claim that “I jab them all equally” cannot survive scrutiny. Nor can his attempts to plaster over a manifest, liberal political bias by claiming that he’s just a comedian and with a wink telling people to stop taking him seriously. He quite obviously wants to be taken seriously. Accordingly, he can’t just turn it on and off when it suites him. Just to be clear, I don’t have a dog in this hunt. I’m a libertarian and so don’t fit neatly within the “liberal-conservative,” “Republican-Democrat” dichotomy. But I wasn’t surprised when I read his staff were the writers for President Obama. And yes, that does affect his credibility.

  • olivececile

    How does it affect his credibility, exactly? He’s pretty open about his political beliefs, and that he supports Obama as the president. He is the voice of his staff, so it’s not a huge surprise if they do as well (although you wouldn’t have to support him to write for him). So, there’s no new information here.

    I think he takes the issues he talks about pretty seriously, because they are serious issues that affect people’s lives. That’s not a bad thing – I would find him very hard to watch if he didn’t care, personally.

    Anyway, I’m just curious how he or his show is any less credible now than he and the show were yesterday (and what, exactly, we are being asked to believe that is harder now to believe).

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