Congratulations, Glenn Beck! Health Care Reform Has Passed!

You’re an idiot if you don’t think yesterday was a dark day for America. But you’re an even bigger idiot if you don’t think we are all coming after all the progressives who did this to our country!

And it’s people like this that are killing what remains of the republican party.

You’re so right usa guy…….And the fact that you’ve made this point in the comment section of a blog about tv shows makes it all the more valid and all the more influential…..I”m glad you’ve expressed your opinion and think that other people care about it……In fact- with said comment- you’ve just changed the entire outcome of this health care bill…………

I’m with you usa…..Just wait until the abortion clinic for jihadists opens up in your neighborhood…..Or orthodontia work for gang members is available…You’re right…what’s going to happen to the country because of this bill?…….but on the bright side proud usa guy………….Imagine the comments you’ll be able to make on Perez Hilton’s blog!…………

proudofusa: As a business owner that pays 32k for 5 employees healthcare what is your idea? This is a classic corp. vs. American people & for once the American people have won. Republicans are the boot shiners of corporations opposing financial reform, healthcare, and those on the Supreme Court allowing unlimited corp. spending on political ads. Maybe Muslim radicals will form a corp. and advertise for more Rep. candidates to further their goals of bankrupting America with terrorism & having ignorant Republicans wave the flag & invade countries that had nothing to do with it! But I digress, I love paying 10x more than any other country for healthcare that is ranked 37th in the world!!!

Coming after all the progressives who did this to our country? You’re scary! Come on – I’m armed and ready for you.

You’ll notice today, watching TV or reading the news, that there will be a sudden rash of stories about “what health care reform means for you.” Which is the sort of thing that might have been nice for journalists to focus on for, oh, the year or so before the bill passed.

Thanks JP- it had to be said. I think KT and other Time reporters have done a decent job of reporting on substance rather than horse race, but the media as a whole- yech!

OK, everybody, let’s save the threats of armed confrontation for the American Idol posts, shall we?

I’ve wondered about their reporting over the last few years- not just Fox, but other media outlets. It’s like investigative reporting is gone and everyone is blogging opinion or picking up a Reuters story for filler.
Still, you have got to wonder if some of these “news” shows and online media shouldn’t have a disclaimer that they aren’t real news and some facts may be distorted. I will give Beck his credit- he is the first to stress that he is an “entertainer” and not a pundit or journalist.
My second pont USA guy illustrates perfectly. When does the First Amendment right end? By that I mean, if Fox and the like insist on whipping people into a frenzy over half truths and outright distortions, isn’t that as potentially dangerous as yelling “fire” in a crowded theater? Case in point, look at what happened to members of Congress arriving to the Capital on Saturday. What cuplability does media have for that kind of mob mentality? We put warning labels on music and video games, so why not this kind of entertainment, too?

Great article. I am so excited to watch GB tonight, just to watch him cry. It’s not a perfect bill and it’s not what I would have wanted, but we’ve got to start somewhere and at this point, something is better than nothing.

Haha yep the first thing I thought when the reform passed was ‘It’ll give the Conservative radio guys something else to talk about’.

I have no idea what’s even in this bill, so I can’t support or oppose it yet.

Corporations vs. American People???? Tell me why insurance and health care stocks carried the market into positive territory today. Maybe Obama is doing a little shoe shining himself.

I agree a thousand percent we should have gotten clear bullet-points on likely reforms long before this. The media fell down again, which means the media will now talk about how the media fell down, then wait a few days and start falling down at something else.

We’re just now getting the details of a moderate, centrist bill that modifies the present system, giving us one day (and counting) of cool analysis to counter-balance several months of lies, scare tactics and urban legends about “death panels.”

Now wonder “proudofusa” is so furious. Look what we’ve been fed.

amerrealist – i could just kiss you. parallel circumstances, own my own business, pay thousands every year for health insurance. thanks for saying what i was going to say!

Agree! It has gotten to the point that the only word that comes to my mind is…..treason. Disagreeing is one thing, and it is the right of every American citizen. But calling people baby killers, saying “you lie” on the floor of congress, hurling racial epithets at congressmen…….how are they different from those who spit on our troops when they were returning from Vietnam? They’d never admit that because they are all on fire for war, actually supporting the war, and to compare them to those who were anti-war in the ’60s is the ultimate insult, but let’s be real, they are doing the exact same thing, spitting on those who are serving our country. it’s all just so kooky. But free speech is free speech, and Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh are laughing all the way to the bank.

IN WAKE OF NEW HEALTHCARE PUBLIC DENIED A DOC 2ND OPINION …

UNDER NEW HEALTHCARE ONCE DENIED MEDS—PUBLIC & PARENTS ARE BRANDED ILLEGAL CRIMINAL FUGITIVES WITHIN & OUTSIDE USA BORDERS IF

**THEY SEEK MEDS OR HEALTHCARE FOR THEMSELVES OR THEIR VETS OR THEIR CHILDREN

ALSO, AT THE TIME ANY DOCTOR AT WHIM CHOOSES TO LIE TO CLAIM THE PUBLIC/CHILD ISN’T SICK AND DOESN’T GET MEDS & THEY DENIED MEDS & HEALTHCARE PUBLIC CANNOT SEEK 2ND OPINION OR SUE FOR MALPRACTICE, NEGLIGIENCE, OR WRONGFUL DEATH .

Anyone with any reasonable amount of intelligience should know if you AREN’T BEING GIVEN MEDICINE (for new or pre-existing condition) & NOT BEING GIVEN HEALTHCARE —-YOU CANNOT CLAIM YOU ARE INSURED OR RECEIVING HEALTHCARE.

DEMS & ACLU are counting on the public being to gullible to know this.

WHAAAAT DO YOU CALL IT WHEN people like MR. RUSH LIMBAUGH or anyone of USA PUBLIC Is FORCED TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY TO GET HEALTHCARE & MEDS—-DOES ANYONE think they can claim MR. LIMBAUGH OR ANYONE OF USA PUBLIC ARE PROPERLY INSURED OR RECEIVING MEDS…..if you DO—then THE DEMS HAVE AN ADDITION TO THE BROOKLY BRIDGE THATS FOR SALE and they’ll throw that into the HEALTHCARE PACKAGE TOO if you will be gullible to believe that too…

I DON’T SPEAK for the TEA PARTIES and be thankful I don’t otherwise the DEMS would ALL BE IN JAIL.

seek legislative and LEGAL action to get SOC HEALTHCARE & stimulus and bailout kicked out see American center for law and justice OR GOOGLE the problems with socialized health care OR GOOGLE handsoffmyhealth.org OR GOOGLE bigGovhealth.org OR stoptheaclu.com OR Health science institute OR familysecuritymatters.org

About a year ago, the Department of Homeland Security was asked to evaluate the most likely source of terrorism on American soil.

They concluded that it was the ultra-right-wing conservatives.

These are the same people who blew up the Federal building in OK City. These are the same people who bomb abortion clinics and murder abortion providers. These are the people who hold paramilitary training in Idaho “just in case”. These are the same audience attracted to Fox (I won’t dignify it by calling it a news organization, because it isn’t). Personally, I consider Fox to be a seditious organization advocating treason, but, hey, that’s just because I believe in democracy and the American process of government.

Were it up to me, I’d keep every one of these people under 24/7 surveillance – just like any Islamic extremist who showed up on the FBI’s radar. As long as they act within the confines of the laws of the land, I could care less what they do. The second they step over them, I’d like to see them put in their own form of Gitmo until they learn how democracy works and how to accept the results.

Liberals put up with six years of the systematic stripping of our rights, environment and wallets under the conservatives without a call to arms to overthrow the government (Which I all but heard from O’Rielly when I was at the VA the other day). Seems to me the conservatives can learn how to play the same game the same way.

Wow… Did you run out of your Thorazine?

It’s people like you who make people at the Department of Homeland Security say that people like you are the biggest terrorist threat to the United States today.

Congratulations for your spectacularly incoherent rant. It’s the best example of paranoia I’ve seen in months.

I was just about to ask about placing bets on whether he would cry tonight. I’m doubting it though since he was mocked pretty heavily after the last time. I do expect him to do something bombastic about this though. I’d like to see what it is but I can’t stand to watch that guy for more than about 5 mins.

I agree with carpevis. Aussifaire is a little whacked out and definitely nonsensical. He or she definitely has a right to his/her freedom of speech even though the statement does not make any logical sense. I don’t get the claim of denial of meds at the beginning and why the Dems (just the congress people or all members of the party?) should be put in jail.
BTW, if you want to not sound like a raging lunatic, stop using the caps.
I’m, for one, glad that you’re not in charge. You’re really scary….

I do billing for medical services. While calculating cost of a service we have to account for doctors, facility cost, personel, and misc. cost. Mediciad is billed that amount, which in this example, is $75. Mediciad pays us $40. This does not cover our cost so we have to then turn around and increase the cost so that we can maintain the office and provide the services. Since approximately 40% of our custumers are under Medicaid/Medicare, we then have to charge $100 per service to recoup our losses. Insurance then has to raise premiums to cover raised payouts. Federal programs are responsible for the increases in insurance rates. This is why Walmart is pulling out of accepting further medicaid perscriptions as the amount paid does not cover costs. Wake up.
This bill has multiple bribes for individual states. It has effectively changed the Pell Grant and has created a federal bank that will be the fourth largest bank in the US. It has created a fine system that will be administered by the IRS. Just what I wanted more IRS workers. In the end, it will have to ration these services because of the lack of medical professionals, and because of this bill we will experience an amount of doctors leaving this profession and less students pursuing this profession.

It’s weird how many people came here to rage about the healthcare bill when that’s not actually what we’re talking about. Media coverage discussion to the left, healthcare rage to the right, please. (hoho, see what I did there?)

It nicely illustrates the point, though. Glenn Beck is like the Costco of outrage. He’ll be wholesaling the drama for months to come on this issue. The gods of punditry must be rejoicing, indeed. They have whipped this country into a frenzy with a concatenation of half-truths, embellishments, and frantic chicken little-isms for months and this is culmination of that. The content – and the context – of the actual reform is irrelevant. All you “DARK DAY FOR AMERICA” suckers are just feeding the beast. Like oakster16 says, it’s scary.

Please, run on repealing health care reform.
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Please tell seniors you’re going to take the $250 check for the Medicare donut hole back.
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Please tell parents that their kids can no longer stay on their health care plans until the age of 26.
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Please tell people that you want to make it legal again for insurers to bar kids with pre-existing conditions.
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Please. I beg you. Please be that stupid.

Speaking of Beck, this is priceless:
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http://mediamatters.org/blog/201003220080
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He’s furious that civil rights legend John Lewis dared to walk into the House like he was a civil rights activist. He might actually be dumber than I thought.

You realize the ratings go up, up, up because more people watch, watch, watch which indicates that more people are pissed, pissed, pissed at the government? You make it sound like the whole purpose of opposing this as a conservative radio personality is so that people will watch your show. People watch the show because they agree with what is being said. Idiot.

“People watch the show and agree with what is being said because they are Idiots.”
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Fixed it for you.

I think he ran out of lower-case letters ;)

You’re right that higher ratings may indicate an increase in partisanship, but it’s kind of a chicken and egg thing. Some people tune in because they agree with what’s being said, and other people tune in for the entertainment factor and then buy into what’s being said. So does the increased partisanship cause his ratings to improve, or do his higher ratings increase partisanship? Hard to say.

But either way, the ratings for these shows — even as they increase — show that only a very small percentage of voters are watching. Beck’s popularity (along with others) doesn’t mean the general public is in agreement with what he’s saying; it just means there’s a small group of people that’s very unhappy. And will probably grow only unhappier as they continue to listen to Beck’s interpretation of events.

Just before the ruling, John Boehner took the floor and suggested there’s “no turning back.” He additionally asserted that Dems can’t ignore the will of the people forever.

Which is it? If this bill is such a demon that will ravage our country, wouldn’t it be overturned when a Republican is unanimously elected in 2012, running on a platform of rescinding the health care bill? Is the fear that by 2012, the secret police death panels will have already euthanized grandma?

Do those arguing “there’s no turning back” really believe this one piece of legislation transforms our entire system of government into some sort of 1980s USSR cliche? I miss blue jeans and rock n’ roll already…

James is dead-on with his assessment that only now will we see rational reporting, but I disagree that Beck has quite that bright of a future. His brand of bellyaching has pushed the delicate balance of infotainment into the land of Jerry Springer and Pro-Wrestling. I can’t fathom how his mega-tantrums could have the longevity of Limbaugh; who’s slower, steady brand of beet-redness will march on long after the Beck’s of the world have become an amusing footnote at the beginning of a decade, Like Milli Vanilli or New Coke.

pff…”ruling.” I meant vote :]

If you are reading these words right now, please, for the love of God, dismiss all paradigms you may have and truly open your mind up and free all thoughts to pose this question to yourself: What if Glenn Beck is correct and we do have a radical Marxist Communist as President of the United States and in high offices of his administration such as Anita Dunn and Van Jones and now this new Rev Wallis? Ever see pictures of Mother Russia at the height of Communism circa 1950??? Despotism. When Governments provide all you need, on a very limited basis of course giving you only what you need to get by, then where does the desire to improve oneself come from? Where do all new ideas manifest if Big Government gives you a house, a car, an education, health care et al??? Where do new thoughts come from? Where does innovation and ingenuity come from? How do we evolve into a higher form of life if we don’t have new thoughts and innovations? Answer is we don’t. Which is why Ben Franklin said we must make people UNCOMFORTABLE in their poverty. When Big Government takes over the spirit is diminished and evolution of the species stops. Please, for the love of God, ask yourselves what if Glenn Beck is correct?

I see what you’re saying. I really do. I also get that you’re seriously concerned, and genuinely worried for this country. I think that’s good and healthy, despite the tendency toward melodrama which defeats rational discourse. But here’s the thing you need to remember that I think your crew often forgets:

Glenn Beck is an entertainer.

He’s not even a journalist like, say, Tom Brokaw, who is held to at least a semblance of factual reporting. Glenn Beck is the far right equivalent of The View. He’s as much of a creditable source of information as Maury Povitch, Joy Behar, or Oprah. It’s a talk show. Granted, the topics are political and maybe more important to the country than whatever book Oprah’s hawking this week, but it is still there for the purposes of entertainment.

I don’t blame you or the other Glenn Beck lovers for forgetting this. It’s not in Beck’s interest to belabor this crucial point, and, frankly, he and his cohorts are deliberately disingenuous about it. It is his job to convince you toward a particular point of view by whatever means available, and he does it very well. So, listen to Glenn Beck, and agree with him if you’re on the same page. But keep in mind that the information he’s imparting is biased toward keeping you paying for his brand, not toward educating you with factual reporting and analysis.

You know, this comment system is the most back-assward thing ever. How does one of the most prestigious media organizations in the US have such ghetto blog software? It irks me.

Dear blinded by rage people that are being really really mean to a guy that has said nothing in favor or against the health bill and has refused to directly insult either party.

Think about it!

“Where are the death camps” “where in this bill does it say that the government is seizing control of private insurance companies, making doctors employees of the state, or any other amendment that tells a doctor he can’t give you the treatment he wants!”

I 100% agree that no care was taken in actually informing the public about what is actually in this bill.

Washington post, Nytimes, huffington post, you name it they all failed in attempting to educate voters.

But to call this bill European socialism (which it’s not) is a lie.

I find it terrifying that people believe the slander that comes from fox entrainment shows (which the station itself notes time slots that are entertainment not news – o’rielly, beck, limbaugh are during these slots) and MSMBC TV(at least they have TV in their title) is actually news. If fox ‘news’ or MSNBC TV tried to put their extremists on network TV under the guise of News, these these talk show hosts would be forced off the air for unqualified slander and lies.

These are talk show hosts not News Anchors not politicians, they have no obligation to speak the truth. MSNBC TV could say that Republicans are Cannibals, and Fox ‘news’ could say that Democrats are actually jihadists with no consequence or guilt.

I have no problem with these talk show hosts spreading their opinions (they have the same validity and title as John Stewert and Stephen Cobert with out any respect). But to have to go to a free clinic where I work and try to convince people that regardless of what the bill will do, no one is going to euthanize their mother is a mess.

Agree or disagree with this bill that’s your choice but when you galvanize people on the basis of lies professed as news you hurt democratic (as in democracy) government.

I personally wish that Fox News would either put ‘News’ in quotation marks or during these shows switch their logo to Fox Op/TV (for opinion), Just to clarify what they actually want to pass as news. Wouldn’t any of you be angered and annoyed if Comedy Central changed their name to News Central?

Its scary that people think their own government has the constitutional power to institute socialized medicine or create death squads. And its unbecoming for talk show hosts to profess lies as truth.

Glen Beck job is to slander. He has no interest in making sure he tells the truth. Period.

Barack Obama was elected by 55% popular vote 365-173 electoral.

He will be out in 2-6 years.

It sound to me like you are against social security, Verterans hospital association, Indian health system, the National Institutes of Health, the Center for Disease control, Medicare, Medicaid. Which is fine that’s your choice that’s why it’s nice to live in a democratic country that does not suppress free speech unless libel or slander (that’s against provision in the constitution and dec of independence). No one here is saying Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh should be taken to a gulag, we just find it irksome that they profess themselves as news.

Also have you ever read the communist manifesto, because if you had you wouldn’t call Obama a marxist.

Also this bill while loaded with a whole bunch of unnecessary stuff actually does the exact opposite of what you have taken for Glenn Becks words.

Do you see innovation, cost cutting measures, or free market in the health care payment system. I don’t. I see an industry that since the time of roosevelt has been protected from Anti-Trust Laws and has no accountability. I see an industry that wastes money. Worst of all I see an Industry that until these reforms no new insurance provider could survive if they truly had their customers in mind.

Like it or not this bill contains absolutely necessary reforms that are present in all 37 countries that have better a ranked health care system than us.

If you want Jeffersonian politics that great, he was a great man(besides owning slaves-another era). I hope you know more about him that one-liner (he made some very poor choices concerning national defense)

Personally, I’m a Washington man, His farewell address he begged this country not to have factions (parties). I can tell you what though… I have to believe he would be disgusted by statements and actions done by both parties.

Yelling Baby Killer, at a fellow representative is what a child would do when he just lost a fight. I also wish that the republicans would have cooperated with Democrats to insert some very valid amendments that are only being proposed now to try and stop the passage of this bill.

Please don’t pull a glenn beck or limboaugh tantrum on me now and berate me with slurs in a really high pitched tone. Its unbecoming of a gentlemen

Gee Kevin,

sounds like you are just making our point for us and validating the accusations that Democrats are just creating a trap program that will never be repealed but will enslave people in the name of benevolence. No excuses now Kevin, useful idiots are just as guilty, I hope you own up to it when our children are asking “who did this to them”. Poetic justice will prevail because you will have to depend on this system one day.

The Soviets had the innovation and ingenuity to beat the US to space during the height of Communism.

I agree with having added “melodrama” to attempt to make my point more clear, forgive me this indulgence, please. I disagree that Glenn Beck is purely an “entertainer” since his facts and points of argument lead to the inevitable fact that Baraq Obama and his “cohorts” are in deed radicals and are attempting to usurp the fundamentals of the Constitution of the United States. Which is not, by any means, “entertaining”. In fact, it is down right scary to have a President of The United States change the process of how a bill is passed mid stream just because We, The People, elected Scott Brown to the US Senate. Yes, I am a Massachusetts resident and proud volunteer for Scott Brown. Also, I was raised a Democrat. Please, think about that.
The President, Speaker of the House, and Senate Majority leader changed the process mid stream. Now consider where this President came from. Rev. Wright, a Marxist. Van Jones, a Marxist. Anita Dunn, a Mao-ist, and, in deed, thanks to the excellent reporting of Glenn Beck there are many more Communist Radicals around The President of The United States. Yes, Glenn Beck is quite the “entertainer”. Ask yourself this, regardless of how much you may “feel” about Glenn, regardless of how you feel about those he exposes, please, ask, ‘what if Glenn Beck is correct?’ Open your mind, and ask the question.

When Obama put his pen to paper on Tuesday of this week, he ended freedom in America because now we have to purchase something by force simply because we exist in America. Yes, 37 other countries have National Health care but guess what…you get what you pay for. This is why a big mac is 4 bucks but a T Bone is 15. Also, people in those countries that work and make say 10 bucks per hour, lose 8 of it to the state. I would rather have less taxes, no force, my own money, and the freedom to choose for myself, thank you. I watch all news shows in order to be able to rationalize both sides of an argument but on FoxNews there are panels, graphs, charts, Conservatives, Liberals, Republicans, Democrats, real live Congressmen and women and Senators, once in a while, even the President. Did you see that excellent interview by Mr. Brett Baier? What Brett Baier did that Sunday is what ABC et al used to do. David Brinkley thinking the camera’s were off saying, “Bill Clinton doesn’t have decent bone in his body.” Priceless. And, that was before he received you know what from Ms. Lewinsky in OUR oval office. You folks can try to minimize FoxNews all you like. The truth is they ask the tough hard questions while the other news shows are doing what Ms. Lewinski did to Clinton, for Obama.

JAMES PONIEWOZIK, your prediction has not come true so far. Glenn Beck dropped the health care reform topic like a hot potato the moment it passed. If he hadn’t, he would have to explain why his lies about the bill were just that: lies.

How did he end “freedom”? We still purchase health care from whomever we want. We still get to choose our jobs, we still get all the freedoms we had (post patriot act). No one is being made to purchase health insurance. You get a tax break if you do. As the world health organization sees it…we have been buying a big mac at a t-bone price. We were ranked 37th in health care (1 above Cuba) and spend the most $$ for that coverage. I guess if graphs, charts, icons, pretty colors and flashy graphics is your measuring stick for news…I hear Barney has a new show. I would really like to see your research on the 80% tax you claim those other industrialized, modern countries pay.

@robertcappucci – So basically what you are saying is that if a cure for cancer comes from China, you would discount that because a Republican didn’t think of it? That only Americans and the people who believe as you can have a good idea? That only someone who believes in Christ, can have a proven method to better our standard of living? How did the world ever survive without Americans?
How many “facts” has Beck “reported” that were later found out as absolute LIES? What “facts” that he stood so proud upon, he now sweeps under the carpet? Where are the death panels? Where is the text that reads the govt is taking over health care? Show me one “fact” that Beck has ever “reported”. BTW…Beck is my favorite comedian.

Yes, EVERYONE has to purchase a health insurance plan now. Everyone is mandated, by the federal government to buy something. In the first year, if you don’t you are penalized 95 dollars. In the second year, you are penalized 395 dollars. In the third year you are penalized 695 dollars. No, we have been buying a T Bone, at T Bone prices. Big mac health care is featured in Cuba, which is why Castro just endorsed this madness. I obviously over exxaggerated the taxes paid in other countries, but not by much. The mean income tax rate in Europe is over 40% with Belgium at the highest of 55%. Now, add the VAT tax to that and it is above 60 close to 70 and I was off by 10%. Guess what happens when we go to single payer in this Nation. Our roughly 40% income tax will go over 50 probably close to 60 and now add the taxes on special medical devices. No bright color Barney’s here.

Moreover, Catepilar, Verizon and other companies are announcing higher costs. Higher taxes, higher costs, big mac health care. This is why the CBS poll today shows 62% of the country wants Republicans to keep working at the repeal process. Remember in November.

One final piece, please, other news programs also have panels, graphs, charts…blah blah blah, but they do the Lewinsky for the Liberals and Democrats. Glenn Beck’s statements about Health Care have all come true so far. Do you watch Glenn? He predicted that this health care legislation is just the progessives way of getting us to single payer and out right socialism, which leads to Marxism. This too is clearly shown on the Glenn Beck program. Glenn’s product so far has been the ideals of our Constitution, faith in the Lord, freedom, and the American way of life. I like that product so, yes, I am buying all I can. Finally, I am thankful for this debate. I read all you have said and I have learned from you folks. I find you thoughtful, intelligent, kind and keen on debate. I apologize if I was being out of line in any way. I mean no harm. I am just upset about this bill being passed. I would like to see everyone healthy, cared for, employed and happy at tall times. I only wish we explored tort reform and having the ability of buying across state lines. In my study of history, especially that of the Reagan years, it seems to me that time and time again when Big Government shrinks in size and taxes, We, The People are freed to explore the limits as far as our minds and capabilities will take us. Consider this, by the end of Reagan’s two terms 35 million new jobs were created, inflation sank, Government revenues trippled, and our economy grew by 1/3rd. Since Obama has taken office the unemployment rate has risen by 5% almost. I mean no harm, I hope I wasn’t rude, and again, thank you for this debate. I appreciate your time and thoughts responding.

Whoa! A cure from cancer from China? I hope it isn’t like their electronics that always fall apart. LOL. No, I wasn’t saying all that at all wsvegas. But I, too, wonder how the world survived without America because since America became a shining city on a hill the entire world has been rushing to see the lights, until recently of cours. You said I said all that. LOL. Glenn is very funny. But here are his facts: the words and actions of those he exposes. Check them out. Again, thank you all for giving me something to think about. God Bless America.

Single payer? Where did you get that? Is that what you fear will happen? Funny thing is that anyone can keep their insurance from their insurance company. Businesses will still offer benefits to attract top notch employees. I guess you must be against those pesky patients that are being dropped. I guess I shouldn’t expect less from a right wing nut. BTW…VAT is the responsibility of the businesses not the individuals. So you cannot add that tax to the individual. Damn those that research…

Everyone is not required to buy health insurance. OK…here is the breakdown…
If you have health insurance you receive a tax credit. If you do not have health insurance you don’t receive a tax credit. So you see not having health insurance is about as illegal as not owning a home or having kids. WOW…good try. And when did a T-Bone become the chop steak of the beef industry. Face it…the other countries that we are trying to model our health care after, have much better health care than us. Japan has less infant mortality, longer life expectancy. Less money spent on health care.

You are aware that half of this bill was written by the republican party?

None of what Beck said has come true. Where are the death panels? Are they killing your grandmother? And Marxism? Socialism? You know they don’t mean the same thing.

Using Beck’s logic, you would like to see America as a Theocracy? You see I can also take an idea’s ideology and take it to the extreme. A Christian Iran. Anyone that doesn’t believe in God…well we’ll just kill them.

You do realize that tort is only 2% of all health care?

You do realize that it was Bush’s policies that caused our depression and it was keynesian economics that got us out? I’ll admit that I did like Reagan. But it was the technology boom, defense spending (cold war and that was the govt spending…sounds a bit like big govt to me) and space programs that fueled that growth.

wsvegas, we are mandated to purchase a product. Period. Individual citizens. Ya, ok, half the bill was written by Republicans!?! That’s why none of them voted for it while 30something Democrats voted against it. Incorporating last minute Republican Amendments in hopes of getting at least one vote and saying it was half written by Republicans is like saying I am Chinese because our Government borrow’s their dollars. You are obviously a White House Representative of some sort and, yes, I know Socialism is when the Government takes more taxes from business and individuals to run everything but Marxist philosophy is to just take everything. This is why I said Socialism LEADS to Marxism, as Mr. Beck points out in his truthful, fact filled, FoxNews program. His facts? Again, the words and actions of his people. Will you please address this, WSVEGAS, We, The People were told a Health Insurance reform Bill would be drawn up by the Senate, another by the House, the two would be comprimised into one, and then both Houses vote on the new one, but the Senate had to pass it by a super majority of 60 votes. Then Ted Kennedy passed away. A special election in Massachusetts, a state 3 to 1 in favor of registered Democrats, elected Republican, Scott Brown who ran as “the 41st vote” to end this bill. He won. The President then directed the House Speaker and Senate Majority Leader to pass the first Senate bill and send it his desk, muting our vote in Massachusetts. I say, that, along with back room deals, Air Force One flights, executive orders that cannot circumvent Congressional Law, and all of the other secret deals and muscle coercions makes this entire bill bogus due to the deceptive way it was forcfully passed. Muscle tactics and secret deals within their own party, mind you. Save your White House Propaganda, WSVEGAS, I will choose Beck every time.

One… The bill was written half by republicans. This occurred in committee not on the floor. The bills the republicans tried to add at the end were just measures to try and block this legislation.

Second, people keep saying the will of the people, The WILL OF THE PEOPLE… blah hogwash just look at the gallup poll (http://www.gallup.com/poll/126959/Majority-Poor-Young-Uninsured-Back-Healthcare-Bill.aspx)

49% of adults say good thing
40% say bad thing.

It passed in Congress because over a the majority in the senate (not the 60 votes needed but who could expect any Republican to want Obama to pass something that has failed for 60 years) and over the majority in the house of representatives.

Just because less than half the nation (who might I add do not even know the real details on this bill, bc I would say 90% of people don’t) are vehemently against it because of what they have been told by media not required to be truthful, doesn’t mean the nation is against this.

Is this bill perfect no, does it have plenty of solid reforms yes.

Is it the end all be all no. But it sets the stage for more reform to come which, anyone can agree, is necessary.

Sir the committee that introduced this bill into the senate was a bipartisan committee. If you look into it many of the features in the bill were introduced by Republicans. Why do you think the public option was eliminated, why do you think that the rest of this bill is not as effective as it was meant to be.

You should call up Glenn and ask him if he is bound to tell the truth legally the way he would be if he was a actual new’s anchor. Ask him if what he says would be allowed to pass as meaningful and fair minded opinion on abcmorning or the Today show. He might tell you that he is bound to tell truth in his heart… but when it comes down to consequence for shouting slander there is little.

And do you really have that little faith in our government, do you think we all want socialism or marxism. If 60%, 70%, 80% of people were against this bill do you think it would have passed. No, sir, by the nature of our government, It would not.

Frankly the majority of the people who are against this bill would go see a b.s. in telecommunications (who transfered 4 times to get one degree), yes our very own wise and worldly Sarah Palin, speak on political, economic, and “what-sa-me-hossy” social truth. Doubt, that? nearly 10,000 tea party activists (many of whom argue against socialist programs but are actively taking social security, medicare, and medicaid–> and would scream and kick if you tried to take it away from them) went into the desert of Nevada to see her speak.

Why is it so that I fear Mobocracy in a country so devoid of a strong education system.

Very well put, I hope to speak as well as you one day.

As a good christian who before going to college went to church every week, who is against abortion (for myself and those who I care about), I must say “faith in the lord” has absolutely no place in American government period.

If your against abortion that is your own opinion how dare one assert that you know more about the nature of life than another.

If you think that America is veering away from wholesome christian values, it is your job to elect people in your district and state who represent what you believe in, just like it is everyone else job to do the same.

Fear mongering the 40% of Americans who dislike (2-5% who vehemently so) this bill is just that fear mongering.

And your points on Ragan are nice but not quite applicable,
1 Ragan was after Carter (as a dem, Anyone would have been a better president). He came in at the end of a recession. He fought with OPEC and did some stuff a little above his power of his presidency(Iran-Contra?). More importantly he dropped taxes on the wealthy in the hopes trickle down economics and loosen restrictions on International banking (SWISS bank accounts?!?). More importantly he dropped financial regulation which arguably (I admit not consensus either way has been made on this) lead to the crash of 1987.

P.S.
“Despite the fact that TEFRA was the “largest peacetime tax increase in American history,” Reagan is better known for his tax cuts.” look it up.

62 % of The American People want Republicans in Congress and The Senate to KEEP FIGHTING THIS LAW. CBS News is the source of that FACT!!!

Reform is necessary, subverting the vote of the People in Massachusetts in the form of Senator Scott Brown, or in VA and NJ for that matter, is not only un-necessary, but down right anti-constitutional hence illegal. Forcing a citizen quietly living a life of donuts, cigarettes and vodka to purchase health insurance while harming no person but his or herself is unconstitutional, hence illegal. I don’t care if this new law gave every person their own personal doctor, a new car, house and vacation home with all the fixings. The way by which it was obtained was unconstitutional, hence illegal, making every single thing in it null and/or void. As the Supreme Court will hopefully agree with. If not, citing the LOOPHOLE of interstate commerce, which is BOGUS, then there are other ways. The rule of law is what I am talking about here. I believe, as I hope we all believe, that our disagreements are the binds that keep us all Americans, and by no means do I wish harm or hateful acts upon any person. To the contrary, I love happiness in all its forms. However, by the rule of law and civil disobedience, I hope and pray that this November Congressional Majority will shift, this law will get de-funded, and by 2012, the Senate and White House will experience a shift as well. Then, this law can legally be repealed and replaced with common sense like being able to buy over state lines, and stopping men and women of ill design to reap fortunes over frivolous lawsuits in tort reform. Shouldn’t the last year and a half been spent focusing on our steadily declining job rate by the absolute powers in Washington and not using every trick under the sun to pass an unconstitutional (law in my opinion)? Seriously, now!?!