LostWatch: Thieves in the Temple

SPOILER ALERT: Before you read this post, find the right stone to push at the temple and watch last night’s Lost.

I have stuffed James away in a dark hole where Claire is singing a creepy, off-key lullaby to him. So let’s get to “Sundown.”

When season six started a month ago, fans who had endured a long hiatus expected quick answers. It’s the last season, after all; the show ends just a few weeks from now, on May 23. But instead, during the first four weeks of this season, we got new characters like Dogen and Lennon, an elaborate new set at the temple, and SmokeLocke insisting to Sawyer during a long jungle trek that his questions (and, presumably, ours) would be answered if we just keep following. It was a little annoying: it’s way past teasing time.

Tonight, the teasing ended. Dogen and Lennon are dead. The temple is in ruins. But we may have landed, regrettably, in Zombieland.

For weeks, the fan community had buzzed about tonight’s episode, officially No. 6 of the season (assuming you count the two-hour premiere as episodes 1 and 2). Before it aired, tonight’s episode was rumored to contain a great deal of revelatory information. I don’t think so much was revealed — see the hail of bullets below — but “Sundown” did represent a big break from the windy, mysterious, season-one-like pacing of the previous hours of this season.

At the end of last week’s episode, if you recall, Jack smashed the mirrors in the lighthouse. Tonight, Damon and Carlton broke the mirroring trick they had employed in episodes 3, 4 and 5 of this season, which had matched closely to hours 3, 4 and 5 of season one. For instance, episode 3 of season one, “Tabula Rasa,” was about what Kate did back home; ep 3 this season was “What Kate Does.” Similarly, last week’s installment was a Jack episode that included some of the same lines and Alice-in-Wonderland images of the season one’s “White Rabbit.”

So tonight’s “Sundown” was supposed to match the Sun-and-Jin season-one epiode “House of the Rising Sun.” Fans on the excellent Transmission podcast had speculated that tonight we would find Sun and Jin ending up as the Adam and Eve skeletons first shown in “House of the Rising Sun.”

Instead, unexpectedly, we were served a Sayid episode in which Sun and Jin barely figured. We got Sayid’s flash-sideways story, which (like most of the flash-sideways stories) seems intentionally boring. In the new-2004 timeline, Sayid translates contracts for an oil company. He pines for Nadia, who is married to his brother. He’s sweet to his niece and nephew. (Is is just me, or is Lost obsessed with children this season?)

On the island in the other timeline, 2007, Sayid confronts Dogen, who convinces him to try to kill SmokeLocke. Dogen is careful to instruct Sayid not to let SmokeLocke speak before Sayid attempts the murder. But Sayid isn’t quick enough. He plunges a dagger deep into SmokeLocke’s chest, and although it leaves a hole in SmokeLocke’s sweaty T-shirt, it apparently does not puncture his livid heart.

There’s been much debate about whether Jacob might actually end up being the bad guy of Lost, but I’m not buying it — at least not if that means SmokeLocke is supposed to be good guy. Tonight SmokeLocke said to Sayid, “What if I told you that you could have anything you wanted? What if I said you could have anything in the entire world?” This is pretty standard Satan talk: only the devil promises everything. It also echoes the famous line that preternaturally wicked Ben Linus says to the real Locke in season three: “What if I told you that, somewhere on this island, there is a very large box and whatever you imagined, whatever you wanted to be in it when you opened that box, there it would be?”

Except we now have Ben possibly turning into a good guy. “Sundown” ends with the beach folks, led by Ilana and including Ben, finally arriving at the temple and saving, at least, Miles.

And that leaves Kate. Back in season three’s “Par Avion”, Mikhail told Kate that she was not on “the list” — presumably Jacob’s list. Tonight she ends up going back to the Silence of the Lambs hole to find Claire. Kate had come back to the island to find Claire, but Kate has always been her best on the run. Now that she’s returned to something, she seems doomed. At the end of tonight’s episode, she ends up with Claire, Sayid, SmokeLocke and the rest of the zombies.

OK so are they zombies? Sayid (or Zombie Sayid) said explicitly earlier this season that he was not a zombie — but isn’t that precisely what you would expect a zombie to say? Naveen Andrews, who plays Sayid, is a talented enough actor that I don’t think his vacant expression in the final frames is an accident. He looks and acts like a zombie, following SmokeLocke at will. SmokeLocke can’t be killed because he’s already dead — just like a zombie. (Hurley, where are you? At this point I need a funny line about zombies.)

With that, the hail of bullets:

Why did Claire tell Kate to jump into her Silence of the Lambs hole? If she truly hates Kate for taking Aaron, why not let Smokey kill her?

Did Ilana’s team stake out the temple? Did they just happen to arrive at the moment?

If SmokeLocke wants to leave the island so badly, why didn’t he leave with the very eager Sawyer? What has happened in the interim?

How does Dogen’s torture machine work? He says it balances good and evil, so does that mean a truly good person would enjoy being electrocuted?

Why was Dogen so important? And what does that baseball have to do with it?

Dogen seems pretty dead, and there aren’t too many episodes to revive him as a full character. But could he emerge at the end alive because he was drowned in what used to be Jacob’s healing waters?

Can the Lost makeup people ever get hair right? It was nice to see Keamy again, but that awful thing on his head is either a hairpiece or a huge wad of styling gel.

by John Cloud

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  • thetvobsessed

    The flash-sideways still doesn’t really work without out know what the connection is, but with the 2007 Sayid paralleling island Sayid in very different circumstances, it worked out quite well. I’m not sure if we’ll be able to get that each week since Sayid works perfectly in the duality.

    Was anyone expecting Sayid to kill both Dogen and Lennon? That totally caught me by surprise, because I thought Dogen would play a big role. I’ll be disappointed if this is the last we see of Hiroyuki Sanada.

    Review of the episode on my blog:
    http://th3tvobsessed.blogspot.com/2010/03/review-lost-season-6-episode-6-sundown.html

  • macevangelist

    Welcome to the circus!
    While I still kind of cling to the idea that the sidewaysverse shows us the happy ending after the final fight in LOST PRIME on may 23rd, Sayid freeing Jin, who was captured by Keamy after delivering the Rolex to our favorite ex mercenary, makes me think otherwise. Still I wonder if Matthew Fox will be right about the timelines collapsing into a single one on the island in the next three weeks… However I was surprised too to see poor Dogen and Lennon die. We know that the Fountain Of Youth™ is offline, so no chance they will get revived in that muddy waters. Maybe they were just neccessary plot devices to make us feel how evil Sayid 2.0 is. Maybe Dogen could not kill the man from Tikrit himself because he was a CANDIDATE… ClaimedClaire is kickass evil too, and Kate will get in trouble now that she revealed that she raised Aaron… who is supposed to be raised by no one else. Locke promised her that she will get Aaron back: “I always do what I say”. Creepy line, but I believe him. Locke is straightforward, as promised he killed everybody remaining in the temple after sundown. Why haven’t we seen the special effect yet how Smokey condenses down into Lockes form? Maybe they’ll keep it for the finale. So the dies are cast, everybody is moving. Can’t wait for Dr. Linus explaining us european history next week…
    About your bullets, John… There is still the chance that Claire wil turn against Locke because he lied about Aarons whereabouts. Maybe Kate can talk her out of her frenzy because Aaron is safe home with granny. Dogens baseboru was just a symbol of his attachment to his son to make us feel his pain.

  • That Guy

    Only a bad-guy would kill Mr. Eko

  • cashoutcurse

    episode 3 of season 1 is “tabula rasa.” n00b.

  • texgator

    @JP: to answer a couple of your “bullet points” (or at least my best guess answers):
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    1. Claire saved Kate from Smokey because A) she still doesn’t know where Kate is hiding Aaron and B) she wants the satisfaction of killing Kate herself.
    .
    2. The baseball was a reminder from Jacob of Dogen’s past life (son died coming home from baseball game) of the atonement/bargain that brought him to the island. The ball dropping right at that moment was Jacob telling Dogen to stay his hand at the moment he was about to kill Sayid (the Angel staying Abraham’s hand as he was about to sacrifice his son? Thoughts?)
    .
    Other thoughts:
    .
    Was it just me or was Flocke not at all happy to see Kate walk out of the Temple with zombie-Claire? Count me now as legitamitely interested to know why Kate is not on Jacob’s list and what her role is in the endgame (I can’t believe that now at the end I’m finally interested in Kate’s story. It only took 5 1/2 seasons.)
    .
    To elaborate on your question of why is Dogen so imortant. More specifically what did Lennon mean when he said that Dogen was the only thing keeping Smokey out? What power(s) did Dogen have and were they granted by Jacob or is Dogen one of those “special” people (like Walt)?

  • jtoots212

    @cashoutcurse… I think he was saying that the TOPIC of S1E3 was “What Kate Did”. nonoob.

    Anyway – GREAT episode last night! This is what I’m talking about!!! Some people are getting a bit impatient for answers this season, but this episode did the deed for me.

    The look in Claire’s eyes was INCREDIBLE when Kate told her that she in fact did take Aaron. When Claire said something like “He’s coming and you can’t stop him”, I like to think she might have been talking about Aaron… admittedly I’m a bit overly attached to Aaron’s future. I’ll be seriously dissapointed if this doesn’t go anywhere by the end.

  • cashoutcurse

    terrible episode last night except for the last 10 minutes. of course the internet will love it.

  • Dave

    I’m kind of surprised at how ambivalent I’m feeling towards this episode. To me, it feels like the middle chunk of a movie I’m really interested in. I’m enjoying what I’m seeing, but I’m watching it so that I can watch more of it.

    As with the past couple episodes, I enjoyed the content of the fake timeline, but I still just don’t care about it. If we never had another flash sideways, I’d be totally fine with them wasting a few hours of content on it, because it’s been entertaining enough for me. But until we see anything relevant to the real story, I’m finding myself mentally checking out more and more in the side flashes.

  • madmatt86

    It’s true, the notion of Jacob being the bad guy, or UnLocke being not so evil in the end, died in this episode. Along with many others. As for the people wanting answers, that probably answers the important question of “who?”, which just leaves us with “why?” and “how?” for the last few episodes.
    .
    It’s weird though. Jacob assembled a cult at the temple, the people there worshipped him like Jesus… and as soon as he’s gone, most of them just run away? Into the arms of the devil? Didn’t they learn anything?
    .
    It was god to see Sayid, though he was waaaay too obvious here. Or he made some things pretty obvious. My first thought was that the claimed people really are beyond help, and that UnLocke’s followers seem to get into trouble in the alt-2004 timeline. But then there’s Claire more or less rescuing Kate. Claire can be turned by Kate, otherwise there would be no need for that scene. Which means Sayid, even after this episode, can be turned. Why else would Jacob intervene to save him?

  • Kemper

    Re: Is is just me, or is Lost obsessed with children this season?

    My pet theory is that the introduciton of the so many ‘new’ kids in the alt-timeline is to establish some instant consequences for whatever comes later. Assuming that the end game will be either the destruction or merging of the timelines, I think the kids are a quick way to put some more weight and cost into the alt-timeline for when (if) the time comes to end it somehow.

  • http://themothchase.wordpress.com themothchase

    I actually found this episode a little disappointing – they introduced too much new stuff and didn’t develop enough of our old mysteries…of course, I’ll be happy to be proven wrong when this new stuff ends up being crucial for understanding the old stuff!

    I’m left wondering who Sayid’s reward will be though – he’s had two women die in his arms: Nadia and Shannon…and we know Shannon’s coming back – maybe the surprise will be that for some inexplicable reason, badass Sayid loved prom-queen Shannon most of all.

    This episode was full of Biblical allusions that indicate Smokie can be interpreted as a God figure or Satan figure…so I think they’re still stringing the mystery along on that one -

    for more on that, check out our blog post on this episode at http://themothchase.wordpress.com

  • Tom Shaw

    “Is is just me, or is Lost obsessed with children this season?”

    I realize this isn’t your full-time gig, but Lost has been making a concerted move towards parenthood ever since the ending was scheduled years ago. The actual children have been removed from play, and even the youngest adults have been made parents, whether biological (Claire, Sun, alt-Jack) or adoptive (Kate, Charlie). Which makes sense if the Jacob / Esau fight isn’t something as simplistic as good vs. evil, but rather one of philosophy / civilization.

    It is possible Sayid is working on Jacob’s orders. Both Dogen and Lennon were killed and deposited in the healing well, and “ghost Jacob” was doing something to the water when he visited Hurley. On the other hand, that con came at a terrible price to the rest of Jacob’s Temple disciples. Then again, the overriding theme of the flash-sideways seems to be the Jacob-less timeline has happier individuals with the world poorer as a whole – Jacob sacrificing individual happiness for the greater good seems exactly like his M.O. Then again, it is questionable if alt-Sayid was happier than normal Sayid – Is it in fact “better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all”? I’m not stating Sayid is pulling a fake heel turn, but I wouldn’t be surprised.

    I wouldn’t say Claire rescued Kate, as much as she kept her alive for later “questioning”….

    Personally, I don’t believe the “Alt-World is Season 7″ thinking for a second. Finding out we’ve been seeing “the ending” for the last season is a neat narrative trick, but it has no dramatic power. Besides, that assumes Sawyer / Esau / etc. will escape to the original timeline – and there is little evidence of that.

    And I wouldn’t assume Esau dropped his escape plan. Either he needs to mop up the opposition on The Island before he can leave… or one of him has already left with James. He roamed around enough as Smokey while “trapped” in the cabin, there is no grounds to assume he’s limited to one body now.

    Personally, I found alt-Keamy’s appearance boggling. Why would alt-Jin have to interact with him? Sure, I could see Jin making the watch delivery in all timelines, but why would alt-Jin have to deliver money to a minor local mobster. Unless in this timeline it is Jin that is running away to America (with Sun’s father’s money), and Keamy picked Jin up to deliver to Mr. Paik…

  • shara says

    I really liked the episode as a whole last night. I liked getting the backstory on Dogan, I enjoyed the Sayid flash-sideways stuff. It was a little disconcerting to come to the realization that Smokey was 4sho evil – the show had teased that issue enough that it was still somewhat possible Jacob = bad and UnLocke = good up until tonite. So there was an answer, but it was less interesting and nuanced than what I had been hoping for.

    The action in this episode was very satisfying – the Sayid throwdowns, the Temple massacre, all very well-done. I loved that Sayid asked good questions – Sayid has always been pretty good about asking the right kinds of questions, which I guess makes sense for a former interrogator. So often I just get frustrated when characters fail to stop and ask questions of people who have answers – so 10 points for Sayid.

    Its interesting that UnLocke is collecting murderers (Sawyer, Sayid, Kate) as well as creating them (Claire). Not that UnLocke seemed particularly glad to see Kate, though…

    So WTF is up with UnLocke and why has he been imprisoned on the island?
    1) Maybe he is like a devil figure, who brings out the worst in people and wants to overrun the world to destroy humanity by pushing people towards their own evil sides?? And he’s been imprisoned on the island to prevent him from spreading his evil around…
    2) Along those lines, maybe Jacob and UnLocke are both angels, except that UnLocke is a fallen angel who must be imprisoned in a prison powerful enough to contain a supernatural being, and Jacob is his guard.
    3) Or maybe its about paradoxes – perhaps something about UnLocke constitutes enough of a paradox that he is kept on the island for the sake of reality – that the island is a place for paradoxes to be contained, a way for the universe to course-correct. So then, when the Losties wouldn’t fall in line with Jacob’s paradox-protecting mojo, they set a series of events in motion that made everything more vulnerable? They created the ultimate paradox – two divergent timelines – which gives UnLocke a loophole to get back into the world or something. I dunno.

    But, on the other hand, I do kinda feel like the flash-sideways vignettes are the future of our Losties, mostly because I can’t think of any other way for the timelines to actually merge together – I’m sure the show will blow my mind, though…

    Wow – so, no coherent thoughts at all from me today. Still digesting the episode…

  • Dave

    Shara, I find myself just sitting at the “still digesting” point after every episode. We’re really not going to know what to think until the series (or at least this story arc) is resolved.
    `
    That said, I wasn’t particularly blown away by last night. It felt like part of the natural progression of the story. They said Sayid would be evil, they hinted that Sayid actually would be evil, and Sayid ended up being evil (for now). Now, I hope for the sake of the character that he’s not evil for the rest of the show. I’m hoping the Smokey’s Army arc gets resolved in the next 2-3 episodes (there’s going to be a one-week break at some point, right? Do we know when it is?), leading into an arc with huge emphasis on the two timelines coming together/interacting/whatever.

  • dwhitcomb

    Episodes like “Sundown” strongly remind me of how Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse said that “The Stand” was an important influence on their work. Tonight has shown us that we have everyone dividing into two camps and UnLocke is increasingly resembling Randall Flagg. Like in The Stand, the leader of the good tribe dies/leaves and they no longer have a supernatural leader. Hence, Jacob has been preparing Jack to take on the Stu role.

    As I think more and more about the whole Candidate thing I am less inclined to believe UnLocke’s explanation of these people being possible replacements for Jacob. This may be what UnLocke believes, but I don’t think it’s true. Jacob said that “it only ends once, everything else is progress.” I think the remaining candidates are the group that together can bring about the end. Locke, Hurley, Sawyer, Sayid, Jack, Jin/Sun, and Kate are the collection of individuals that form the team with the ability to bring about the end of an eternal conflict. All of their talents, personalities, and desires make them a group that can “live together” and bring about the end that Jacob references. I think every single one of them is important in their own right.

    Similar to “The Stand” where each major character had a part in the end game, I think we’ll see the same thing happen in Lost.

    For example, Randall Flagg made a serious misjudgement in trusting Trash Can Man. This ended up bringing about his end. In Lost’s first season, both Sayid and Charlie have a comment about Locke to the effect of “I have a feeling we’ll need him before this is all over.” My guess at parallelism to “The Stand” would be that Smokey made a miscalculation in taking over Locke’s body. Locke is still there and will ultimately prove a large part of Smokey’s undoing. I also believe that Sawyer’s ability to Con, Sayid’s soldier skills, Kate’s caring, Jack’s leadership, Hurley’s ability to see dead people, and Jin/Sun’s love will all play a role in bringing about the demise of Smokey.

    I have no idea how the alternate timeline works yet, but I’m beginning to think it is showing us the promises made by Smokey aren’t quite what they seem.

  • jtoots212

    LOL Thanks for the groundbreaking input!

  • http://carlyedean.wordpress.com carlyedean

    after all this time, i’m actually annoyed that season six is the way it is. i fell asleep during last night’s episode.

  • jtoots212

    I’m curious as to why you’re thinking we’re going to see Shannon again? Because she wasn’t on the plane in alt-timeline? She was far from my favorite character so I’d be happy to leave her dead.

  • teresakopec

    I’m not enjoying this season as much as I thought I would. We’ve invested so much into these characters and for them to end up this way seems like a cheat. Sayid an evil zombie? Please. Sayid is one of my fav characters and if he has to die, it ought to be a big heroic, self sacrificing death.

  • http://www.twitter.com/jnsmall Jay Newton-Small

    Jacob could still be the bad guy — he was the one who made that “what f” promise to Dogen that brought him to the island. That means both Jacob and SmokeLocke engage in the same kind of machinations: maybe they’re both evil?

    My question is: why didn’t Claire return to the camp? She knew where it was and that that would be the most logical place her friends would bring Aaron.
    JNS

  • shara says

    I am reserving judgment on that – I think that it is still unclear what level of personal agency Sayid (and Claire, for that matter) has, and to what extent some external “darkness” has fully overtaken him. Maybe there is more in store for his character that will allow him to have a more satisfying arc and death.

    Something along those lines that I am worried about is the extent to which the Losties that we’ve gotten to know over the previous seasons are gonna go through some sort of memory-wipe or rebirth – that, I think, would probably be a copout that I would find highly unsatisfying, basically negating the progress they’ve made as human beings since coming to the island. I have a feeling I would NOT like that, if it were to develop.

  • rosseau

    If you know a guy has been infected with what you call Evil, then probably not a good idea to send him to Evil Incarnate. Dogen must have known that Sayid would fall under unLocke’s sway. Maybe he wanted to die? If Sayid knew about the ressurecting pool, why kill Lennon and Dogan in it, unless Sayid is working a long con on Smokey. It seemed pretty uncharacteristic that he, the trained interrogator would articulate his heart’s desire to a thing he knows to be evil, when simply asked what he wanted and right after trying to kill it. So if true, Sayid and Sawyer are playing Smokey (I’m taking for granted Sawyer is also conning him because I don’t want characters I’ve come to know and care about suddenly with the flip of a switch to turn evil; it doesn’t make sense dramatically and defies all the rules of narrative fiction; it would be like Luke Skywalker turning to the Dark Side at the end of ROTJ). Locke even is probably not dead and will see some sort of closure.

    I wish they had an extra season. I understand every season must have an arc, a new thing to keep it different from previous seasons, and I realize if we just get answers every week and nothing else, it would feel like a clean up job and not a dramatic series, but the temple and this clash of deities is interesting enough that I wish they could spend another season on it.

  • superdee

    Just remembered: Juliet came to the Island on a similar bargain – someone (Ben? Ethan? Acting for whom?) promised Juliet that her sister’s cancer would be cured/her sister would have a baby if Juliet came to the Island.

  • superdee

    Oh, an in return Juliet could never see her sister again. Sounds familiar.

  • franny7

    I thought the biggest answer came in the enhanced Lighhouse: ” Sayid was shot but the Others healed him in the springs. The Others initially believed Sayid died but he didn’t”
    So he can’t be a zombie,…altho who knows what this statement meant.
    No one seems to be talking about this reveal – am I the only one who thought it was huge?

  • Dave

    Actually, the little tidbits from the enhanced episodes aren’t from official sources… they’re done by a 3rd party company. So while they’re largely very accurate, any “new” information we find from them needs to be taken with a grain of salt. I trust what Miles says about Sayid being dead for 2 hours.

  • franny7

    thanks, Dave, I didn’t know that.
    And it was bugging me as to why they’d have Miles contradict that statement in the next episode

  • tyrantking

    Where the #*&$ is Desmond? I’ve about had my fill of season 6. What about his uniqueness? Why was he on the plane then off? So what if I’m still trying to process episode 1 of this season?

  • Mipiace

    Does anybody who knows their biblical references know if there is a story similar to Dogen’s? Just curious.

  • profdante

    I love me some Sayid, so I enjoy last night’s episode on that level, but overall it just feels like this stretch of episodes is mostly just a matter of moving pieces around on the gameboard. Has there been any forward progress at all… toward anything?? I’m enjoying it, but I’m also a bit detached from it all..

    I will also say, however, that if they don’t explain the purpose of Cindy and the kids reallllly soon I’ll be most upset :)

  • samantha2587

    I’m so happy to know that someone else noticed Fake Locke’s subtle unhappiness when he saw Kate walk out of the temple. He was plenty happy to have all the temple folk accompanying him on his supposed journey “off the island”, so why not have Kate join? Is there something still special about her, even though she’s not a candidate, that will hinder his plans? I’m excited to see what unfolds!

  • murdoc829

    Minor correction:

    Dogen’s son didn’t die. Jacob healed him in exchange for Dogen’s move to the island (never to see his son again).

  • http://barryinstockholm.wordpress.com barryinstockholm

    Two points:

    1. Jack has appeared in ALL of the flash-sideways thus far. (Premiere/Kate’s/Locke’s/his own/Sayid’s) Important? Discuss?

    2. Lindeloff and Cuse have joked for years (in their podcast) that the final season of Lost would be the “zombie” season, as if that would be the indication that the show had gone on too long, or jumped-the-shark.

    And here we are in season 6 with zombie Claire, Locke and Sayid (to date). Are zombie Dogen and Lennon on the horizon? I’m not sure the joke is funny anymore.

  • jtoots212

    Claire’s not a zombie, is she? We never saw her die. I thought it interesting that while she is very similar to Danielle R now, there is one very distinct difference. Danielle was clearly against the smoke monster b/c it took her crew and/or infected all of them, but Claire is actually FRIENDS with it. Supwithat?

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