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Jaypocalypse 2: The Jaysurrection–How Will He Do?

Tonight, The Grover Cleveland of television, Jay Leno, commences his second nonconsecutive term as the host of The Tonight Show. (As I write this I’m about to head off on assignment for a couple days, so I’m not sure if I’ll be able to blog about his first night back or not.) His first week, as I’ve noted, has no blockbuster guest list, with the exception of Sarah Palin. This may be by design (to keep his return low-key) or it may mean that Jay’s reputation has indeed been harmed by the ouster of Conan O’Brien, at least among celebrities sought for bookings.

But ultimately, celeb fallout is not the important issue, unless it affects the only issue that matters: how will Jay’s ratings be when he comes back?

I still predict—and mind you, I’m no genius at predicting ratings—that Jay will in no way be hurt as badly as the public controversy over Conan might lead you to believe. (I’m talking here about long-term ratings after they settle, not the tune-in for his first night or first week back.) If I have to guess, I’d say that Jay gets most, not all, of his previous Tonight Show rating, and likely eventually beats Letterman again, at least in overall viewers. Here’s why, plus a couple reasons I might be wrong:

* Jay’s actual audience. Yes, a lot of people are intensely pissed off over the Jaypocalypse. In particular, people who didn’t watch Jay Leno.But what matters is how the controversy hurts, if at all, among people who used to watch him on the Tonight Show. His hardcore fans—people who love Jay and followed him to his 10 p.m. show—don’t think he did anything wrong and are glad to have him back. His less hardcore audience, average, non-showbiz-obsessed folks, just want to watch some TV at the end of the day and could give a rat’s ass about the professional integrity of their TV hosts. (Steve Sternberg develops the case here.)

* Time heals. But even assuming that there’s some lingering yuck factor hurting Leno, how long is it likely to persist? Look, I was hard on NBC, and to an extent Leno, during the Jaypocalypse. But the dude did not kill a man. Whatever Team Coco thinks of him, and whatever the general public thinks about him, eventually that’s going to fade, just as his machinations to get the show over Letterman did.

* The Letterman effect. Now, I don’t expect Jay to go back and get 5 million viewers a night again. Simple reason: Late night is about habit, and NBC has broken its viewers’ habit twice in a year. People left to sample David Letterman—some will come back to Leno, but enough of them are going to decide they like that new habit just fine now. Leno has been on TV for two decades, so it’s not like he’s got some resource of new viewers to replace those.

* The stars will come back (maybe). Even if Leno is having trouble booking some A-listers, if his ratings do well enough anyway, most will return, because publicity is publicity. Celebrities did not move to Canada when W was re-elected in 2004, and they will not permanently stay away from Tonight if it’s #1 again, or close to it. And nowadays, there are only so many celebrity guests that truly make a big difference to ratings.

* The unknowns. That said, there are plenty of reasons I could be wrong. As I said, the fact that Leno went on Oprah suggests that he and NBC are more worried than I am about the practical effects on his image. And there are things about the audience we don’t know. Leno got 5 million viewers in Tonight and 5 million in prime time. But we don’t know how many of them were the same viewers—and thus will follow him back—and how many were just watching whatever happened to be on TV. If the latter is a big number, he could lose more viewers to Letterman—or simply to bedtime—than I am expecting. Especially since he, like Conan, will have lead-in problems. His local-news lead-ins have been damaged—by some show with some guy NBC put on at 10 p.m.—and once local-news ratings are hurt, imroving them is akin to turning around a cruise ship. (Because they too are largely about habit.)

I will frankly admit, as a TV observer, that if Leno’s ratings are not good, things get really interesting. How long does NBC give him to turn it around? And it would just be the cherry on NBC’s disaster sundae: it will have gutted its primetime and its late-night, all while paying $45 million to strengthen a potential competitor in Conan O’Brien.

That, of course, will never happen, because NBC never makes programming mistakes. Right?

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  • Tom Shaw

    I expect, probably by year’s end, that Leno will be neck and neck with Letterman. Leno probably won’t regain the significant lead he had on Letterman though. The Conan partisans will stay away… but they were not and will not be watching Leno anyway.

    That said, the real issue is 5 years down the line. No offense intended, but Fallon isn’t TTS material in the short term (if ever). And the primary danger of the Conan fiasco is that the younger audience won’t return. To whom does NBC turn to for succession?

    Disclaimer: I’m with Team Ferguson, if anyone.

  • charlieromeobravo

    “…if Leno’s ratings are not good, things get really interesting.”

    YEAH, that would be something to observe. If ratings don’t recover to at least near their old levels then NBC will have irreparably damaged The Tonight Show brand. As a television executive I’m sure one of your goals would be to leave an indelible mark on your network, but staining an institution like The Tonight Show is probably not what you’d be aiming for.

  • anon76

    I don’t get where all the “People who like Conan did not watch Jay anyway” logic comes from. I like Conan. I watched Leno. They were on the same channel. I’m guessing that most people who watched Conan also watched Leno- I think there’s a lot of audience inertia between consecutive shows. Not that I think Leno is going to be particularly hurt by all this (though I can hope!), but I have never seen the logic in this line of reasoning. Do people really think that at 12:30 every night 5 million old people would turn off NBC, while 3 million young people who had previously been off doing young people things simultaneously turned NBC on?

  • http://twitter.com/poniewozik James Poniewozik

    I don’t think that’s really the logic, or at least mine. Sure, a lot of people watched both Leno and then Conan. But–and this is just anecdotal, I admit–the Team Coco people (i.e., the vocally upset over Conan) do not seem to have been among them, by and large. (I don’t have polling data; I just judge this by the general disparagement of Leno’s comedy & personality among Team Coco folks online, suggesting they were never fans.)

    In other words, my sense is that *those Conan viewers who were angry over Conan’s ouster* were generally not Leno fans. I don’t have empirical evidence for this. But outside a few exceptions, I haven’t seen a lot of, “I always used to watch Jay and then I watched Conan and Jay screwed Conan over and NOW I hate Jay and will never watch him again.” I could be wrong.

  • anon76

    I may be an outlier, but I fall into exactly that category. I should point out, I never considered myself a Leno fan, just a person who tolerated Leno while waiting for Conan to come on. In fact I thought that Letterman was without exception a funnier late-night guy, but felt he was acerbic enough towards his guests that I preferred the lobotomized comedy on Jay’s show. Again, I don’t know how atypical I am (I don’t have Tivo or even cable), but I’d caution against discounting the inertial Leno viewers. After all, as you’ve pointed out before Jay fans are not particularly ardent, they just want a not-unpleasant experience while nodding off to sleep.

  • mrbilliam

    Are there really that many people who watch two hours straight of talk shows every weeknight? They should do other things.

  • nickelking

    Anon76, I’m in the same boat you are, The Tonight Show used to be something on while waiting for Late Night to come on. I mean Leno wasn’t horrible and it was better than risking forgetting to switch over and missing part of Conan’s monologue. So yeah, I watched Leno, but there’s really no point now.

    I actually feel the same way about Letterman and Ferguson now, I’ve been meh on Letterman’s comedy, but I watch it now just because I’ve turned into a follower of Craig.

  • nickelking

    (and Yes, I’m one of those online team CoCo folks.)

  • anon76

    @nickelking- there are dozens of us! Dozens!

    @mrbilliam- it’s almost impossible to both spend time reading all of the comments on a blog while simultaneously decrying people who spend too much time watching t.v. with out coming across as a complete hypocrite. Nice try, though.

  • mrbilliam

    Reading a blog does not take out 2 hours of every day.
    And my point is that I’m baffled by the importance of lead ins. Thanks for calling me a hypocrite though.

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