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Lostwatch: With Friends Like These…

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SPOILER ALERT: Before you read this post, turn your TV 108 degrees and watch last night’s episode of Lost.

Well, that was interesting. And I don’t really know what to say about it.

I’m at the point where I feel I can’t really evaluate final-season episodes of Lost until the season is over. As the series is entering its endgame, it appears as though it’s going to play more like one long episode, particularly where the Island is concerned. That is: interesting, intriguing things happened–the scene in the lighthouse was one of Lost’s better gee-whiz visuals in a while–and they will pay off or they won’t, but there’s no way of really knowing yet.

“The Lighthouse” moved the endgame forward, but it also reinforced some of my concerns about how this is playing out, and about Jacob and Smokey’s godlike roles in the story.

What we do know is: 2007 or alt-2004, Jack Shepard is going to be a man with daddy issues. Or, in alt-2004, a daddy with issues. I was surprised how affected I was by his moment with new son David at the piano recital–considering this was a relationship we’d known for all of an hour–but as with everything alt-2004, it’s hard to know how permanent or meaningful it is. When and if the timelines are reconciled, will David simply vanish like a puff of Smokey? If so, can we really be that invested in his relationship with Dad?

It was regardless a fine performance from Matthew Fox, who’s grown in this role. (Something I was reminded of both by his nostalgia-trip to the Caves, and by the Party-of-Five-era photo of Fox on his table in alt-2004.) He’s become adept at showing us the “broken” Jack, who–with his mother as always–is trying to fix other people as a way of avoiding what he can’t fix in himself. But with David, we also got to see hints of a Jack who was a bit more in control–not just in control of his drinking, but getting the perspective necessary to pull himself together and be a supportive father to his son.

It also became ever more clear that a lot has changed in changed in alt-2004. Jack, having already noticed a scar on his neck, now sees one on his hip, and becomes aware that something is amiss. He has (we assume) an ex-wife out there somewhere. And as on the Island, Claire is re-entering the picture: another suggestion that the two timelines are somehow going to collide.

As for the lighthouse: is it still there to lead people to the Island, or was it only a ruse for Jacob to lead Jack to discover something in himself? Clearly it had some function in observing and finding the Candidates, brought to the Island; in addition to Jack’s house, we saw some kind of steepled church and a classical Asian building reflected in the mirrors. But the name on the heading Jacob directed Hurley to use–108 degrees–appeared to be “WALLACE,” crossed out, suggesting that that bearing had already been used.

So is there someone else coming to the Island? It’s getting mighty crowded as is. Then again, with all the balls in the air already, there are still characters who haven’t yet returned to the scene–Desmond, for instance, and for that matter, Charles Widmore. How many people can get back into the action in the few hours left.

Only Jacob knows–assuming he does. Apparently he can manifest to Hurley as well as Charlie and the other dead can; when Hurley mentions that Jacob is like Obi-Wan Kenobi, he neglects to mention that at one point or another he had the whole Jedi Council in his head. Like Obi-Wan, he seems to be there to guide, but not act directly.

Which is just as well, because as intriguing as the Island mythology is, the characters are more interesting when they’re acting of their own volition, not when they’re being moved like chesspieces by the gods. The idea that he’s been watched, and maybe controlled, by Jacob all this time is disturbing to Jack, and it is to me too. This is the thing that worries me most about Lost’s endgame: if the characters turn out to have been manipulated in some larger game by Jacob and Smokey all along, it could rob them of their free agency, turning the story into something almost pre-psychological, like a Greek myth. How much can you identify with a game piece?

Speaking of the Island’s gods, or whoever they are, things are a bit more colorful over at Smokey’s haunt, as Claire re-enters the story and introduces us to her “friend”–and her axe. This was by far the most weird, the most creepy and the most tantalyzing part of the episode.

Claire has indeed gone full-on Rousseau, right down to the obsession with finding her baby. (The macabre fake skull-and-fur baby was the episode’s other OMG visual.) She’s been taken and tortured, a la Sayid, by the Others (and has the brand mark to prove it). And she’s developed a way with an axe that leads Jin to lie to her about Kate’s having taken Aaron, presumably both to get Claire to the Temple and because of what Claire would do to Kate if she believed it to be true. I didn’t really buy Emile de Ravin as bad-ass woodswoman, but she did persuasively sell Claire’s particular brand of sweet-faced crazy: even more menacing than her threats to the captive Other was her question to Jin, “You’re still my friend, aren’t you?”

Speaking of friends, the closing reveal was that Smokey is Claire’s “friend,” who presumably has been getting inside her head and influencing her in her war with the Others these past three years. Further, Claire hints at something we’ve guessed at—that Christian, the Ghost Dad she’s been hanging out with, has also had her under his spell, and therefore may also be (or may have been?) Smokey.

A cool twist, but again it raises the same questions of free will as Jacob’s interference. It’s always been clear that the Oceanic survivors were caught up in something bigger than themselves. But if it turns out that, more than that, their actions have been engineered all along, it makes them something less than full characters. I’m guessing–wondering, hoping–that this season leads to them, or some of them, wising up to Jacob and Smokey’s game and rebelling against it, asserting their own independence.

I hope so, because as cool as the lighthouse was, and as well as Terry O’Quinn plays Smokey, I signed up to watch the story of these people, not the Jacob and Smokey Show. With “friends” like these, who needs enemies?

Now the hail of bullets:

* I’m sure somebody out there has already identified the other buildings we saw in the lighthouse mirrors. Was the steeple from the church where Jacob met Sawyer? Was the Asian building/compound from the Jin-Sun storyline? I’m too lazy to go back and revisting the season five finale, so answer it for me, Internet.

* “I just lied to a samurai.” Speaking of Hurley, once again he was used to give voice to a fan theory: this time, What if Adam and Eve are the skeletons of Oceanic survivors? When he talked about the Island-as-Purgatory theory, it was to knock that theory down; I don’t know if this was also meant to knock down that explanation, or just acknowledge that it would have occurred to the characters too.

* So Hurley is again seeing the dead and talking to Jacob. What about Miles, who’s now on the scene and does that sort of thing for a living? Would Miles only be able to pick up Jacob’s vibes at the statue, where he died? Is there something fundamentally different between Hurley’s visions and Miles’ medium work?

* Speaking of Hurley, that Obi-Wan line reminded me of something I’ve been thinking about Lost for a while now: it’s really a kind of remake of Star Wars for the original trilogy’s original audience, with more mature themes–isn’t it? You have similar character archetypes (Sawyer as Han Solo, etc.), you have the apparitions of fallen leaders, you have the overt references (“Some Like It Hoth”) and you have the Anakin Skywalker-like fall to the dark side of Ben.

Also–though this is surely coincidence–there are six Star Wars movies and six seasons of Lost. In which case, bring on the Ewoks!

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  • cashoutcurse

    the order of episode centricities mirror those from season 1. i knew last night’s was going to be jack and next week will be sun/jin just like in “house of the rising sun” from season 1 where adam and eve are discovered. i guess the reunion between the two will occur on island next week and we’ll find out they are adam and eve.

  • chriskw

    James

    I think you’re two main concerns about this season are related.

    I think the alternate reality provides a universe where the characters have more free will than in the universe we have been in for the past six seasons. Then again, I don’t know if a person can be “more free.”

    I am not as worried as you are about how these characters are being manipulated by Jacob of Un-Locke. I don’t think Jacob has actually forced anybody into anything. He just had foresight into who was going to come to the island and decided who he might want to have replace him.

    And honestly, this is really no different to anyone who believes in an all powerful God. John Milton’s Paradise Lost dealt with the same issue of how humans can have free will while at the same God having eternal foresight.

    So I am not too worried. Because I read that interview of Mo Ryan’s with Damon and Carlton and they always talked about how important the original characters will be to the final season.

  • bchoopman06

    This week’s “caught while watching the replay in slo-mo on DVR” important revelation:

    I was very pleased to freeze-frame the episode during the mirrors scene and see “Wallace” crossed off as #108 (which leads me to believe that whole “someone is coming” was a red herring), and also “Linus,” “Friendly,” and “Faraday” crossed-off as well.

    But the biggie was definitely a definitely-not-crossed-off “Austen” at 51. Interesting, because if you do the equation: 4+8+1+5+1+6+2+3+4+2+5+1, you get…42. Also, 51 could be a reference to Area 51, where something beyond our imagination may have happened (and maybe Kate as a candidate is beyond what MIB is expecting, and she could be his downfall?) Finally, the “reading WAY too much into it” connection with Area 51 — both “Kate” and “Austen” contain the letters “ET.” OK, that’s probably a coincidence…

  • Dave

    As much as we need the context of the whole story to really tell us how good this episode was, I really liked it. As much as I (still) don’t care about the fake story, it was interesting and drew me in even more than last week. The on-Island stuff was great, from Jacob getting Jack away from the Temple to Claire showing a very Claire-ish Rousseau (or is she a Rousseau-ish Claire?) to Hurley busting out that he’s a candidate to Dogen (and come on, using a Samurai line about a guy who was great in The Last Samurai? Priceless).

    A few thoughts are crossing my mind right now. I think Kate and Jin going to get recruited by Smokey, Jin because he doesn’t want psycho-Claire to chop his face off, and Kate because Sawyer’s there. But Sawyer’s going to give Jin and Kate an inconspicuous nod that he’s just playing along, and eventually we’re going to see Smokey run out of allies (though this may be final battle-type stuff).

    Per Lostpedia, Dogen’s comment to Hurley was, “You’re lucky that I have to protect you. Otherwise I’d have cut your head off.” I’m curious why Jacob is getting candidates that aren’t named Sayid away from the Temple, but he’s not trying to get his followers away from it. Maybe he’s cool with them dying (maybe the message is that death isn’t exactly a bad thing) but want the candidates to survive. Or maybe he knows Smokey only wants to kill the candidates that aren’t on his side, so he’s not making an effort to protect Sayid, Sawyer, Kate, or Jin.

    Interesting that Austen (apparently) wasn’t crossed out (I shamefully didn’t look closely at the names for whatever reason). That supports the theory that the cave was Smokey’s lair, and he wrote down the candidates separately from Jacob, and perhaps he doesn’t fully understand the qualifications for crossing off a name. Perhaps he thought Kate killing her father disqualified her or something.

    I’m sure many more thoughts will strike me as the day goes along :)

  • Rorschach

    You got a little Kennedy/Lincoln towards the end there, but that’s a good catch on Austen. I’ll have to take another link.

    Also: Ewoks suck. A lot. There’s a reason why Hurley didn’t try to rewrite Jedi.

  • Tom Shaw

    We already knew Miles’ and Hurley’s abilities aren’t the same. Miles just picks up whatever memories they had at the time of death; Hurley seems to be having actual conversations with still “existing” entities.

    And that 108 was already taken, and crossed out, made it pretty clear that the entire Lighthouse trip was a ruse to get Jack in whatever mental state of mind Jacob needed. That 51 was Austen and not crossed out is the more interesting thing – did Jacob simply not return to the Lighthouse since Kate was ruled out, or (and again, it is my pet theory) with an Esau soon to be loose in the world, has the condition that The Numbers reflect switched from 4 to 51?

    Speaking of Esau, it didn’t look like he had Sawyer with him. He may be limited to one form now, but he doesn’t look like he’s limited to one body.

    Also, Claire really doesn’t seem that dead to me. I am still utterly challenged to find any difference between her hard-heartedness and Ben’s.

    Dogen’s same-age appearance in alt-LA seems to shoot down my WW2 idea. Given that the religious and metaphysical questions are taking center stage this season, it makes sense that he would take a prominent role – but I wish that they would give us the backstory to make use of it sooner rather than later.

    Convenient that we saw so little of Alt-Jack’s life. Who is the mother? That the kid was picked up from an empty school makes it a given that Alt-Ben and Alt-Locke are employed there. But that it is a religious school (St. Rita’s, I believe) makes me wonder if Alt-Hawking will show up as well (assuming she still became a nun, if she didn’t need access to The Lamp Post).

    But James, I will disagree with you on one thing: expecting the show to explicitly answer the free will vs. destiny thing isn’t going to happen. All of us are constrained both by the situations we were born into and the choices we made in those situations. You can focus on one or the other if you like when you evaluate a life, but the picture is incomplete without taking both into account.

  • archstanton68

    Well, Jack’s back to being an idiot. He finds an ancient lighthouse that has a dial with all his friends names (and many others) which can magically show him important things from the lives of everyone on the list, and his first reaction is to break it? Don’t you think maybe it would be a good idea to play around with it a little bit and see what else it can show you you? For a man obsessed with getting answers, that was an unforgivable act.

  • superdee

    This may have already been established, but: everyone who is “inhabited” by Smokey wears black. Christian (black suit), Sayid (black tanktop), Claire (black jungle-clothes). So I’ve been trying to think of who else wears black. Doesn’t Walt wear black when he appears to John when John was shot by Ben? Doesn’t Charlie wear black when he appears to Hurley? Does this mean anything? (I am tempted to think that w/ Walt it means something, but Walt didn’t die on the island, so how did Smokey inhabit Walt? And with Charlie, Smokey can’t actually leave the island, right? Isn’t that the whole point?).

    Another three points I am confused on:

    1. What is it about the lack of the island that makes the Losties’ lives so different? Why does the sunk Island mean that Locke has a normal relationship with his dad or that Jack has a kid?

    2. Who, in the alt-timeline, knows what’s going on? I would think that Ethan and Ben don’t “know” who Claire, Kate, Locke & Jack are, but the Samurai, I think he does. The bomb-blast only affected Island history after 1977 (or whenever the bomb went off), and the Samurai looks like he’s been there a while. But Ben met Jack on the Island when Ben was a kid, so if Ben saw Jack would he recognize him?

    3. What exactly does Smokey do to the bodies he inhabits? He obviously makes them “evil,” but how?

    As an aside, did anyone else notice how much Hugo sounds like Ben now? The whole I-don’t-know-what-we’re-doing-only-I-can-see-Jacob thing is very reminiscent of Ben traipsing through the jungle to find Jacob’s cabin.

    My theory, for what it’s worth, is that the Island exists to keep Smokey on it and away from general humankind. The time-skipping is a defense mechanism, and the reason that the Others don’t want people on the Island is that these people are just more people for Smokey to infect, create a Smokey-army, and take over the world.

  • http://twitter.com/poniewozik James Poniewozik

    Just to clarify: I don’t want the show to answer the free will vs destiny problem; as chriskw mentions above, that’s obviously an constant problem of narratives and philosophy. What I’m concerned about–and it’s just concern at this point–is that if the show explains too much through the machinations and manipulations of Jacob and Smokey, it risks denying the characters’ agency. It may be (and this would be my hope) that it’s the equivalent of God creating the universe but giving man free will to act within it: i.e., Jacob gets people to the Island, but once there, how they act is up to them. But “The Lighthouse” seems to indicate that Jacob continues to allow himself to provide nudges once they get there. If there’s too much nudging, that becomes a problem, because it risks making the characters into lab rats. Trusting that won’t happen, but it’s a concern.

  • paulciske

    I think it’s interesting that their lives in alt-2004 seem better than they otherwise are.

    Lock- still alive, come to grips with his disability, some relationship with Dad and getting married.

    Hurly – The luckiest guy alive

    Jack – In control of drinking and making some gains with his father

    Claire – Not so creepy

    Rose – I don’t know, she still has cancer, we don’t know how the bomb going off affected her and Bernard

    We don’t know about Jin, Sun, Sawyer,

    Do they get a choice about being involved or not?

  • Dave

    1&2 – I’m starting to think more and more that the fake timeline is its own separate timeline, as opposed to a divergence from the Incident Bombing (which hurts my theory that Daniel’s notebook is the ultimate bridge between the worlds).
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    3. I think he uses the images of people but is forced to also take on characteristics/personality (“Don’t tell me what I can’t do!”).
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    To your other points: I think Taller Ghost Walt (as Sawyer put it) was from the Island/Jacob, because Jacob needed Locke to do what he needed to do for the sake of progress. It seems pretty obvious that Smokey appeared as Christian to Claire so that he could corrupt her, make her leave Aaron, then manipulate her to be available down the line. He appeared as Christian to tell Locke to move the Island (twice), then as Locke told Richard to tell Locke that he had to bring his friends back and die in the process (so Smokey would have a nice pretty Locke image to use to get to Jacob).
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    So I’m not totally sure where that leaves us, to be honest :)

  • Dave

    I think you guys (and Jack) are overestimating the amount of nudging that happens. I do think Jacob was trying to nudge someone towards the Island through Hurley (I think it’s Desmond, but it could be Widmore or someone else) along with getting Jack into a state of mind, but Jack’s action didn’t cause that person to never get there. The universe will course-correct and get him there.

  • Dave

    One thing I’m curious: if Smokey did bring Sawyer, will the stuff hit the fan as soon as he says, “WTF Claire? You left Aaron in the jungle, nobody took him…”? I don’t think it was smart for Jin to lie, but I’m just hoping he plays along long enough to get reunited with Sun. I’m guessing Smokey, Sawyer, Jin, Kate, and Claire are all going to get to the temple at the same time as Ilana, Frank, Sun, and Ben.
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    One other side note that really can’t be discussed here, but by my mental tally, there’s still one thing I’m recalling from the pre-season promos that we haven’t seen on-screen yet. (I am, of course, talking about the Hurley-Sawyer song and dance scene with Snuffalupagus.) I was hoping that all the promo teasers would be from the first 2 or 3 weeks.

  • superdee

    A follow-up to my “people in black” theory: Ana Lucia wears black when she appears to Hurley off the island, and Eko’s brother (whose body was transported to the island via the heroin plane) also wears all black when he appears to Eko in the dream.

    Leads me to the question: how does Smokey-Christian/Smokey-Ana Lucia appear to Jack/Hurley when they’re off the Island?

  • Dave

    I think the better question is this: are the dead people who appear off-Island Smokey or something else? The ones that come to mind are Ana Lucia, Charlie, and all the rest that appear to Hurley, and Christian appearing to Jack.

  • ipfletch

    I’ve just had an idea, but those more detail-oriented than I can hopefully debunk it: what if the alt-2004 IS for real, but is actually occurring AFTER what we’re seeing on the island now? In other words, we’re seeing a flash-forward of the characters’ ultimate resolutions paralleled with the decisions they’re making to get there.
    This occurred to me because of Jack’s multiple mystery scars, which- unless those more anal about this show than myself can say whether or not those scars are explained by previous seasons’ events -don’t exist yet in ANY timeline, to my recollection.
    I’ll be more than happy to be proven wrong here….am I just missing the obvious?

  • Dave

    Juliet took out Jack’s apendix in season… 4? That sounds right. Though I don’t recall what the scar on his neck was from… maybe the toolbox that hit him in the head in The Incident?
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    I think seeing things like Claire’s ultrasound dated in 2004 show pretty clearly that this is happening in 2004 in some incarnation, though leave it to Lost to have some crazy explanation that makes way more sense than it should :)

  • mrbilliam

    Regarding your concerns of free will, I am personally predicting/hoping that toward the end of the season, all the “chess pieces” appear to be in place and then one of our Losties (maybe Jack, maybe someone unexpected like Hurley) says “Screw destiny!” and does something completely crazy and unexpected which confounds both Jacob and Smokey’s plans at the same time (essentially choosing “Door Number 3″).

  • rosseau

    Maybe the lighthouse is a portal to the alt-realitie (s) like the Dark Tower is in Stephen King’s Dark Tower series. Though the producers have said they’re not going to do a Sliding Doors thing, is that right? Maybe when they kill Smokey, the surviving Losties will come to the Lighthouse and get to chose which reality they want, and if they pick the alt one where everything apparently is better, then their minds will merge with their alt-reality minds. Sort of like the end of Back to the Future, without the time travel, or with it since it’s 2004.

    Why can’t Jack’s son be his and Julie Bowen’s? Why a different mother? Does Claire see it’s Locke, because she says, “That’s not John. That’s my friend.” Either she sees his appearance and knows it’s not Locke or she’s seeing somebody else, perhaps Christian, which would mean Smokey appears differently to different people.

    I’m trying to figure out the rule of ghosts on this show. So Hurley can see dead people like Charlie and Ana Lucia, and also Jacob, so Jacob is in fact, really dead? But Jacob is not a person, so why can’t anybody else see him, unless Hurley’s function is solely to communicate with Jacob. Can Jacob take the form of other people, like was it him being Walt standing over the human pit urging John to go on with his quest? (I forgot what the discussion was about GhostWalt). Smokey can appropriate the dead–see Locke and Alex. I was kind of hoping Jacob could too and that Hurley’s visions are not ghosts but Jacob as the dead Losties.

  • megand44

    I was thinking the same thing. After whatever needs to be done on the island 2007, maybe each character is moved back in time to the spot where Jacob touched them…but with all the unconscious island experiences that make them better people by the time we see them in 2004.

    This does not explain though, why Jack seemed not to remember that his son played the piano until he saw him playing (telling Dogen that he did not know how long his son had been playing). Or why Kate is still a criminal on the run…she does not seem changed in the way that Locke and Jack are in 2004.

  • rosseau

    If my first scenario turns out to be true, that kind of answers the free will debate. The Losties will get to choose which reality they prefer, though I am expecting much darker things to happen in the alt-timeline so that it’s not a no-brainer decision.

  • megand44

    Actually, never mind my last comment speculating that the losties would go back to the point in time where Jacob touched them (after the island issues/battle of 2007 have been resolved). It makes more sense that they go back to the point at which they hit turbulence (because of Jack’s scars). But then why have Jack and Locke lived such different lives prior to the turbulence? It seems like Jack’s son is afraid of Jack before the flight from Sydney to LA, and that Jack is a different kind of dad after he gets home (without consciously realizing he has changed).

  • rose83

    I feel like all this has to lead to some kind of choice being made between the two realities. And since the alt-timeline seems more influenced by free will, maybe there will be some paradoxical choice between having free will and being a chess piece.
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    And I’m thinking that Juliet will be David’s mother.

  • rose83

    Was there some kind of significance to finding Shannon’s inhaler? And the fact we didn’t actually see her on the alt-2004 Oceanic flight? Plus IIRC, Boone just refers to his sister or step-sister when he’s talking to Locke, and doesn’t mention her by name.

  • Chaddogg

    I’m again profoundly moved by the free will issue — Jack could have ignored Jacob, Hurley could have refused to do it, etc. Just as it was important for Sawyer to make a choice last week with the Locke-ness Monster (you can join me, help Jacob, or do nothing), so too was it important that Jack/Hurley had free will this week in their trek to the Lighthouse.

    Another important aspect of free will, though, is ignorance about consequences. For those who say “Why doesn’t Jacob tell them what will happen or why they’re doing it?”, my answer would be that if Jacob is some type of deity that has to (because of the “rules”) respect free will, then he must also respect the corollary requirement that the humans not know exactly what will happen — after all, if you had omniscience about consequences, would your will really be free? Of course not — you’d just pick the “right” choice or best outcome. For free will to be just that, it needs the haunting specter of unintended consequences.

    I sympathize with those of you who are frustrated by how the story is being unfolded, but with 11(?) hours left, I think we’re about to see some big, radical acceleration that will allow us to understand the connections between the Island and the alt-storyline much better….

  • Dave

    I really like this post, Chad. The question of free will vs. fate is such a tricky one, and it seems like Lost is genuinely trying to answer with, “Yes.”
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    I’m definitely one of those worried that they’re taking too much time on the fake timeline for the sake of novelty. When they finally bring them together (whether “bring them together” means merge, cross, view, whatever), things are going to be too rushed. (Quick sidenote: I thought there were 13 hours left.) However much time there is left in the show, we’re about a quarter through the last season, and we haven’t seen Desmond or Widmore yet. I do think that whenever Des hits the scene, things are going to take off flying, but until then, it feels like jockeying. (Extremely rich and entertaining jockeying, but jockeying nonetheless.)

  • That Guy

    The addition of Ewoks would make this the greatest series ever. That aside, it’s up there.

    One quote I find overlooked is when Samurai-looking-guy asked Jack about not leaving. Jack didn’t believe he had a choice. He responds that you ALWAYS have a choice.

    Even if they were just chess pieces for their entire existence I believe that before the series ends they will, if not capture their own King or even both, make their own move.

    Also, I don’t think Jack’s scar in the Alt. timeline means they are connected. It could just mean that Jacob somehow didn’t allow it to be taken out then so it could be taken out on the Island.

  • Dave

    James, I think your Twitter question would do well here also, since 140 characters kind of limits exhaustive answers :) (What do you mean I’m long-winded????)

    The objective for the immediate future is for as many of Our Heroes to survive Smokey’s invasion of the Temple. The objective for the rest of the story is to defeat Smokey. I think the angle they’re working towards is to show that it’s not the epic battle of Jacob vs. Smokey; it’s the epic battle of everyone vs. Smokey. Smokey is the dark that needs to be balanced by the light, and Jacob understands that there has to be turnover (either because he’s not immortal or that term limits are part of the rules). Smokey is short-sighted (“it all ends the same”), while Jacob grasps the whole picture (“it only ends once”). I think Jacob is working towards finding a replacement, either for himself or for himself and Smokey, that provides the true balance between the light and dark.

    Yet another side note: I think the kid from last week is Aaron. After stewing on it and seeing him again in the replay, I think he looks too much like Claire for it to be a coincidence.

  • annie56

    The church shown in the mirror looks like the church in the scene where young Sawyer is approached by Jacob. Similarly, the pagoda-like building also shown in the mirror reminded me of the background at Sun and Jin’s wedding, where they meet Jacob. However, we were lead to believe that Jack first met Jacob in that hospital scene–but that’s not what is reflected in the mirror. I think we might see that Jacob has been a part of Jack’s life from much earlier on.

  • renewkir

    There was a really clever music reference last night. The piece that David was playing was “Fantaisie-Impromptu,” which wikipedia describes as such:

    “It ends off in an ambiguous fantasy-like ending, in a quiet and mysterious way, where the left hand replays the first few notes of the moderato section theme, while the right hand continues playing sixteenth notes (semiquavers).”

    pretty perfect.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantasie_Impromptu

  • http://twitter.com/poniewozik James Poniewozik

    Just put the question up as a separate post.

  • chelsea15jk

    First of all, they better hurry up with the whole answering thing! But I was glad to see Claire again, even though she’s gone insane.

    But I don’t think Island Christian was Smokey, because he told John to ‘say hello to my son for me’ and why would Smokey want that? But I could be completely wrong.

    Cool ep. :)

  • madmatt86

    If this comes down to free will vs manipulation, there are two open questions:
    Who stands for what? Jacob seemed to be the manipulating observer in this episode, but he very clearly said that Jack “had to look at the ocean” and figure it out for himself.
    Which leads me to the next question:
    We have Jacob and Smokey.
    Now we have the cave and the lighthouse. Two opposites. Just like free will and manipulation. The question would be: Which place belongs to which “entitiy”?
    .
    Last week it was speculated that the cave isn’t Smokey’s. If Jacob really is the “free will” guy, some random names in a cave don’t hurt anyone. Also Smokey destroyed the scales.
    This week we’re at the lighthouse. The names aren’t randomly written on a wall but in perfect circular order. Order vs Chaos? Free will vs Manipulation again?
    And of course Jacob more or less arranged for the mirror to be destroyed.
    .
    My guess would be the lighthouse is Smokey’s place, the cave is Jacob’s. Both of the obviously knew that “nobody’s home” at the moment.
    .
    Last but not least, even though the alt-2004 timeline seemsto be the “happy” one, you have to take note that they are still in the past. A lot can happen in 3 years, as we already saw in season 5, so who’s to say the alt-2004 characters don’t board a plane in 2007 and somehow land back on the island?

  • renewkir

    per doc jensen, it’s also the piece faraday played for his mother

  • meg7

    About the two timelines, I think they will merge eventually (that is the general feeling of everyone here from what I gather)…..but if the characters we are seeing on the island right now will somehow go back in time to the alt 2004 timeline we are seeing – like we saw the end of season 4 where the flash-forwards made sense in what happens after they are off the island but for it to work something has to happen to cause them to lose their memory about everything since season 1 (since they would never crash) and I wonder if that is what the writers have been trying to show, that in the alt timeline someone seems familiar but they don’t know why…..

    About smokey being christian I have one question – what the hell happened to his body??? smokey doesn’t need the body to take a form as we see with locke’s body in the crate and now buried did not affect smokey in locke form one bit……….It seems that no matter what the timeline, his body is missing !!! if this is a clue I have no idea what it means??

  • meg7

    I am sorry I didn’t read your comment before posting mine (on point 7)….you have a much better way of expressing it….I get the feeling that is what they writers are showing us…..
    I like your point of the scars….

  • muffinjunky

    It’s intriguing to ponder at what point did Claire become “claimed” or “infected”?

    Two theories:

    1. That half-way point between her “escape” from Ethan and her way back to the beach/camp. She apparently had “amnesia” and couldn’t remember anything AFTER/POST plain crash.

    or

    2. When the Freighter “Mercenaries” blew up the Darma house that Claire was in with Aaron during that “short-period” when she accompanied Sawyer, and Miles back to the beach. The Mercenaries blew up the house and Sawyer went in to pull her out. If you recall, Miles continued to “look” at her differently after Sawyer pulled her out of the house. Now remember, Miles can pick up information and last thoughts of the DEAD. I know, I know she wasn’t “visibly” dead at the time, however…….

    Remember he (Miles) had that same look with Sayid after the Other-Others pulled him out of the Spring/Pool (at the Temple) attempting to save him from his shot-wound. Apparently, Sayid did not survive the process and died. Miles was next to him and attempted to “read” him or his last thoughts but could not!!!! There was something different about Sayid that Miles picked up on. He had that same look with Claire after she was pulled out of the house. Then, Sayid “miraculously” awaken/came back to life. Pay attention, everyone was shocked, however Miles payed special attention to him. He sensed something “different” about him!

    Could it be that Claire did NOT survive the blast and had actually died? Could it be that Smokey at the time “claimed” or “infected” her at that point? Miles knew something was different about her and continued to stare at her and look at her differently after Sawyer pulled her out of that house!

    Then, later on “Christian” shows up in the middle of the night, holding Aaron and Claire walks off with Christian, leaving Aaron behind! She is later seen with Christian at the Cabin by Locke. At that point it was VERY CLEAR something had happened to her!!

    So,
    Clearly Miles is brought to the Island because he can “sense” somethings about the Dead. Hugo can TALK to the dead. However with Miles he “senses” something about the dead and can read their lasts thoughts. As the case with Sayid and Claire, they were dead at some point in time and Miles clearly had a hard time “connecting” to them. He “sensed” something different with Sayid at the Temple near the Spring and he “sensed” something different with Claire after she was pulled out of the blast.

    Could it be that Miles is necessary because he can “sense” when someone is CLAIMED or INFECTED ??? He sensed something different with Sayid and Claire and they were both CLAIMED.

    So the question is, how is Miles going to help the other Losties with his talent???

  • muffinjunky

    Also,
    Someone else mentioned/pointed out something VERY interesting, see below:

    In the bible: Psalm 23 “The Lord is my SHEPHERD”, written by King “David”. Here’s the correlation:

    Jack is number: 23 – on Jacob’s list
    His last name is: Shephard
    He has a son named: David (in the alt/reality)

    Again,
    NOTHING about LOST is ever “coincidental” according to these writers! I’m sure there is a hidden message, clue in there someplace.

    Opinions……?

  • Dave

    Stuff like this is why I love the Internet. Oh Internet, what can’t you tell me?

  • royalty23

    So as I traveled from site to site, reading LOST reviews, I didn’t understand why most (not this one) used the same picture of Hurley and Jack sitting at the Temple. It wasn’t until just now that I noticed that Jack has nearly a sleeve’s worth of tattoos on the inside of his right arm. Since when? Am I forgetting something? I also noticed that they go out of their way to avoid showing the inside of the arm for the rest of the show.

    I know Jack had tattoos, but none so large…right?

  • dharmajumpsuit

    Dawson is on the wheel at #124. Is it Michael or Walt?

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