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Lost Discussion Group: Who Deserves a Happy Ending?

Last fall, when I sat down to talk with Maureen Ryan and Alan Sepinwall about Lost (and other shows), one thing we discussed was that the show has done an excellent job of making you invested in characters who weren’t central—or weren’t even on the show—when it started. Alan, for instance, said that one of the most important things to him in the series finale was that Desmond, Penny and little Charlie had better not come to a sad end. (By the way, parts two and three of Mo Ryan’s voluminous interview with Lost’s producers are up, and worth reading.)

In that spirit, today’s LDG topic: Which character do you find yourself rooting for the most as the series comes to an end?

As irrational as it seems to say it, I’m still hoping that there is a possibility of some kind of postmortem redemption, vindication or salvation for John Locke. Locke’s story, when you think about it, is downright suicidally depressing: having led a miserable life of disappointment and betrayal, he comes to the Island, gets his self-confidence back, but ends up dying mistaken, betrayed and murdered by Ben Linus.

The small obstacle, of course, is the fact that Locke is dead, his form assumed by some type of evil spirit. But, you know, this is Lost. What’s a little death between friends?

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  • evizle

    I’m betting it won’t happen, but I’m hoping things turn out good for Jack. Either he ends up with Kate or he deals with his dad issues. I’m guessing the latter happens and the former does not and we have to deal a bittersweet ending.

    The other character I’m rooting for is Ben, but I see no way he lives happily ever after.

  • profdante

    I’d have to say Hurley, even though I know that’s the character that we’re *supposed* to identify for since he’s often been used as a proxy for the audience. But poor guy wins the lottery and then his life goes to hell. Not to mention that his possible-island-girlfriend is brutally killed for no apparent reason. And dead people won’t leave him alone in the mental institution. And he crashes on the island twice. Yet he still finds ways to remain optimistic and focused on the things that make him happy.

  • profdante

    (just replying to myself)
    That is, unlike Kate and Jack who are unrelentlessly mopey and drama-besieged that they manage to suck the fun out of almost anything.

    My runner-up would be Claire, but I feel that that she’s been absent from the show for so long and they never really developed her as a character, that it is a little harder to care about what happens to her.

  • archstanton68

    Vincent. everyone else has, to varying degrees, made a series of choices that put them in the positions they are. (which, as of the white flash, is a complete unknown)

  • samsongr

    I don’t know about “living happily ever after” but I would definitely like to see some character reach some sort of redemption. Kate seems to have approached that a little, by being a ‘mother’ to Aaron. As did Sawyer last season. I think that Jack learning to embrace faith and destiny would be very rewarding. Hurley is the character who seems the most humble and honest and true to himself, so I would like to see him truly happy by the end. And yes, Vincent too.

  • dwhitcomb

    I’m not so much looking for happy endings as I am for satisfying conclusions to each character’s arc.

    For Hurley I believe this means being able to return to his parents home (not a mental institution) and live a normal life.

    For other’s it will mean sacrificing oneself to save others (like Charlie).

    For Desmond and Penny and little Charlie, it means sailing off into the sunset and living happily ever after.

    For Locke, I believe it means something more than his ignominious death. James hopes that he receives some measure of redemption. I think him receiving a measure of redemption and some validation that he’s somewhat special will fulfill his arc.

    I agree with samsongr that Kate and Sawyer have already received some redemption in their arc. Because both are murderers I don’t know that they’ll end up happily ever after.

    Jack needs some closure to his father issues and to let others choose their own fates.

    Sayid needs to know that his soul is not black and evil and that he can be a force for good despite his ability to take life.

    Rose and Bernard need a happily ever after together.

    Ben needs to pay for his sins.

    Sun and Jin should be reunited with their child.

    Walt needs the knowledge that his father went back to right his wrong and sacrificed himself to save others.

    I don’t think the majority of our characters will get happy endings but they’ll get proper endings, ones that showcase their 6 season journey and leave them either in a much better place or much worse place depending on their actions.

  • Dave

    Do directly answer the title question, I think Sayid deserves a happy ending. Dude’s been to hell and back, then got sent into hell again. He’s been shot, stabbed, and punched as much (if not more) than anyone else in the show, and he’s been coerced into working for his most hated enemy. I was so happy when he and Nadya got together, but then that love got torn asunder.

  • Dave

    I said it in Season 5, and I still think this is the case: Ben Linus is going to be a hero for us when it’s all said and done. However you want to define good guys/bad guys, in the end, Ben is going to make the choice to help realLocke/Jacob.

  • shara says

    If Desmond (and, by extension, Penny and little Charlie) winds up happy and safe, I’ll call this season a win :) Seriously, though, if those 3 don’t all wind up happy and safe I am gonna be crazy upset.

    Additionally, I hope that things turn out well for Sawyer, although with his redemption arc and character development from last season I can see him making a sacrifice to save others. So I want Sawyer either to come out of this mess with potential for happiness, or I want him to at least go out well.

  • Rorschach

    Right there with you on Sawyer. Happy ending or heroic sacrifice.

    With Desmond though.. I read Sepinwall’s comment awhile back and totally agreed, but after watching all the eps again… Desmond puts his family’s life in danger throughout Season 5. He has many opportunities to walk away, but he won’t even with Penny begging him. He even went out of his way to taunt Widmore. I understand why he did what he did but generally in stories the character who won’t walk away pays a price, and I think Desmond is tempting fate. Certainly not rooting for his death or anything though.

  • Matt

    I’m pulling for Miles. Kinda like how Bernard is the sole surviving Tailie, he’s the last of the Freightor “trio” (Lapidus hasn’t been developed enough, but it makes me quite glad that he’s main cast now). I’m pulilng for Miles because he’s had his moment of clarity with his dad, so that probably means they’ll kill him off, like they did to Juliet, Eko, Charlie, etc. It’s the Lost M.O., but I can still hope Mr. Straume breaks the cycle. It’s called progress.
    .
    Also, Sun & Jin. When I saw the two of them together in the finale flashback, I got so excited because their connection was something I hadn’t even considered because they were apart all season. Aaaand, I really want to see Hurley give Jin a thumbs up, a la Season 2!

  • shara says

    @rorschach – yeah, I’m definitely worried for Desmond & company. I want them to be ok and happy, but I think that the writers are clued in to the fact that -for so many viewers anyway – the emotional stakes with Desmond-Penny-Charlie are really high. Which makes them that much more vulnerable… I am also still convinced that little Charlie has been kidnapped from the hospital.

  • Dave

    A couple little things I’ll take issue with: 1)we don’t know if Juliet is dead, and 2)that’s not why Eko was killed off. I also hope they’ll keep Miles around, and I don’t think they’ll kill him off right away. (Granted, I think they’ll kill everyone off by the end, but that’s just me.)

  • Matt

    Well the meta reason Eko was killed off is that the actor was done. But within the show, and I suppose the deeper point of my commment, was that the character had no more growing to do. Eko wasn’t “sorry” for anything he had done. There’s no test, no redemption–he refused to play Smokey’s game, so he got slamed into the ground a lot.
    .
    Juliet… fine, we don’t *know* she’s dead, but I that’s the position I’m taking — again, because her character was done. She found happiness. And on the Island, that means you die. (Of course it’s not the only reason! You could also find yourself on the other end of a DHARMA van…)

  • http://www.simonvinkenoog.nl/beeld/Yogi%20-%20Annelies%20Rigter.jpg yogi

    Totally agree, let the dog live out his life in happiness running free in the jungle. Everyone else just makes a good series and I’m okay with whatever happens to them.

  • daviest

    Speaking of Juliet, I’ve really grown to love her over the second half of the series. Seeing her happy with Sawyer last season was a delight, and I’m really hoping for a happy reunion with her family and a pleasant ending for her character. She did have her most fantastic, heroic moment already in the last season finale, but I hope that wasn’t the end for her. I’m rooting for Juliet.

  • samsongr

    There’s been a lot of talk of characters finding redemption and I do agree with everyone that that is probably the closest chance at ‘happiness’ a lot of them will get. But I’m fully prepared for some of the more evil and sinister characters to not only be unchanged, but to also be left unchallenged and standing by the end. The writers said that, like in life, there will remain some unanswered questions. And I think that would be representative of a lot of wrong and harm in the world that goes unchallenged and unpunished. Also… if anyone has read the final scene of the Stand, I think that might be a clue.

  • katie1421

    I’d like for Sayid, Sawyer, and Ben to get happy endings, but unfortunately I’d say there’s a good chance that none of them will.

    With Lost though, I think it’s more important for me that certain characters get “good” endings, if that makes any sense. If they can’t be happy, maybe they’ll at least find some peace with themselves, or go out with a bang.

  • tyrantking

    After watching their lives fall apart last season, I’m not sure any of them are capable of having a happy ending. They’re all way too damaged. That said, any and all of the kids certainly deserve happy endings. I’ll be okay if the grown ups can all get over their daddy issues. And Locke deserves better than what he got from Ben, obviously.

  • Matt

    Y’know, in thinking about it more, I’d much rather every character have an *appropriate* ending than anyone have a happy one.

  • popculturehaiku

    I’m also hoping for a happy ending for Juliet, and that her appearance in the final season won’t be too fleeting. Of course, what I really want is to see her reunited with Sawyer. I smiled when I read that James feels irrational for rooting for Locke. If that’s irrational, then I must be delusional.

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  • olivececile

    It’s interesting – I just took some good advice and watched the pilot and I paid special attention to the obviously foreshadow-y backgammon scene. Dark and light have heavy evil/good connotations in our culture, but in backgammon there isn’t a good guy and a bad guy, just opponents with goals that are necessarily mutually exclusive. It makes me think, even more, that at the end of all this we won’t have good guys and bad guys but a lot of guys who were trying to make different things happen, with a mix of motives on all sides.

    So, yes, I agree Ben is likely to take on more heroic qualities as the show nears an end, although I don’t know if he’ll ever be a hero.

  • olivececile

    I would love to see a happy, or, let’s say, peaceful ending for Sayid. Everything in his life has just set him up for misery, and he certainly shares the blame with fate for that. But you know he’s good at his core and if he can just get past his training maybe he can find a quiet, satisfying life somehow.

  • olivececile

    I’d like to see Claire reunited with Aaron in some way. No, she’s not the most developed character on the show, but there are too many bad/missing parents on this show. I’d like little Aaron to know that his mother loved him and wanted him in the end. I’d also like her to tell him about Charlie, who is sort of the proto-Sawyer in terms of starting out selfish and damaged and ending up heroic and capable of real love.

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