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Report: NBC May Send Jay Walking

[Update: TMZ is reporting that Jay will move back to 11:30. See my separate post above.]

A TV-industry-news website, FTVLive.com (subscription required), is reporting that there are high-level talks going on at NBC over whether to drop The Jay Leno Show. The report is headlined “NBC to Pull the Plug on Leno,” and has been picked up thus elsewhere. But the reporter of the story, as you can hear in this podcast, is actually saying that NBC execs are split into factions over whether to stick with Jay, or whether to drop his low-rated talk show—perhaps as soon as after the Olympics. Reason: Jay’s hurting affiliates and other NBC shows, and NBC’s beancounters say he’s not making (or saving, with his show’s low costs) enough money to make him worth it.

[Update: NBC issued a statement that Leno is performing "exactly as we expected"—though it would only really be news if NBC didn't issue such a statement.]

I have no prediction as to what will happen. But if NBC repudiates its big primetime experiment so suddenly and totally, it could, ironically, be as big a risk or bigger than putting Jay on in the first place.

Consider: pulling Jay altogether—on a network that is not doing well in other time slots either and has more changes to make—would basically amount to calling a do-over on the whole network. (I exaggerate, but only slightly.) And doing it in the space of a couple months in midseason would be a switcheroo like we’ve never seen a major network pull on short notice outside a strike.

Sure, NBC could fill Jay’s time with something: midseason replacements, shows in development, reality, newsmagazines, reruns of shows from sister cable networks, and so on. (Personally, I’d love to see Friday Night Lights come back earlier.) But if it replaces him suddenly, with cheap shows, it could do even worse. If it replaces him suddenly, with more-expensive shows, it could do no better, but for a lot more money—in the process, possibly sinking promising new shows that are rushed to air.

For that reason I’d be surprised to see them pull the plug suddenly—but then I was surprised when they gave him the show. (One mild prediction: at this point I don’t think they dump Conan for him on the Tonight Show regardless. Whatever Conan’s problems, he has years to build, whereas at this point, even if Leno were to bring a lot of old viewers back, NBC can only see him as having downside in the years ahead. Update: And naturally, if TMZ’s report is correct, my only prediction may well be wrong.)

Ultimately, if Jay goes and whenever he goes, an equally interesting question will be what NBC replaces him with in the long run. Will the network, which is in fourth place and has averred that it can not afford to program as lavishly as it used to, stock up on reality shows instead? Will it turn back the clock to 10 p.m. scripted shows and pray that they can self-start, with an incredibly weakened lineup behind them?

You got me. Either way, Jay Leno’s mission as a business proposition was, essentially, to downsize the network. One way or another, downsizing accomplished.

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  • archstanton68

    If dramas on cable can produce quality shows, why are costs so much higher for networks? When I watch the likes of Breaking Bad of Sons of Anarchy, they don’t look cheaper, and they are certainly more compelling stories than anything NBC has come up with. I just don’t understand why they are making this so difficult on themselves.

  • sulliclm

    its not so much the costs, its that the cable networks have another source of revenue (i.e. fees from subscribers).

    James- this is kind of interesting in the context of a) the Comcast-NBC deal and b) the FOX-TWC deal. I would’ve thought that both of those deals would change the calculus here a bit, and at least give Jay some breathing room for awhile. You would think that if NBC anticipates it could strike a deal similar to what FOX got in the near future, they would care less about ratings, no?

    I would agree that there’s gotta be a better solution that just pulling him altogether. I wonder if they’d consider moving the local newscasts to 10pm and putting Jay in front of Conan? Obviously a huge change, but i mean what have they got to lose?

  • cbzimmerman

    I guess someone has to say this but, what’s bad for Jay Leno is potentially good for Chuck. If you suddenly have five more hours of primetime to fill next season the odds for Chuck’s renewal goes up.

  • http://twitter.com/poniewozik James Poniewozik

    To some extent it’s a matter of costs, salaries, etc., but also there’s a question of the business model and revenue stream. Cable nets get paid by carriers (though as we saw with Fox, broadcasts networks/affliates are trying to get a piece of that), FX doesn’t program three hours a night, etc.

  • http://twitter.com/poniewozik James Poniewozik

    True. The flip side, tho, is that if you are filling vast holes with a ton of new programs, there’s a risk new/struggling shows have a hard time getting sampled. But of course it beats cancellation.

  • Tom Shaw

    You’ve summarized all the relevant points about why NBC pulling the plug would be dangerous for NBC, but to reiterate:

    Existing NBC schedule: Heroes, P&R, Community, Trauma, & Mercy are borderline (or worse) for renewal already. Now you want development to come up with 5 more hours every week? Forget two months from now, unless they greenlight every pilot (and again, see how Trauma & Mercy are doing), I can’t even see it happening in Spring.

    ABC: Has Leno’s performance this year ruined his reputation enough that he couldn’t go back to 11:30, on ABC, next year? Thus really putting the crimp on Conan? I doubt it.

    10pm: All the networks have struggled to fill 10pm, for years. 10pm has been a graveyard of constant cancellations for half a decade – and the few recent “successes” are still bubble shows – Castle & The Good Wife (Private Practice is all GA afterglow and exempt). Case in point, out of the 10pm dramas ABC launched this year the only one still running (The Forgotten)… gets worse ratings than Leno. There is zero evidence new programming will be heads above Leno, especially since Leno’s M-Thur ratings boil down to one number: what the combined competition is doing. (He does best on weak Tuesdays and worst on competitive Thursdays.)

    So yes, pulling the plug on Leno is likely to backfire worse than just keeping him on the air.

    If NBC was really smart, they would drawdown (for lack of a better term) Leno over the next season: Drop him to 3 nights a week, program new dramas the other nights.. and then surge to 5 nights to replace the failed shows or withdraw to less (or zero) nights a week as hits appear.

  • adriaezn

    I simply have never – ever – seen the appeal with Jay Leno. I just don’t get it. He’s trying to be funny, obviously – but is he ever uproariously funny? No. So why would I tune in to watch him? So he can make me smirk a few times a show? Sorry Jay, but you just aren’t funny enough. And if I ever had to choose, it would definitely be hulu reruns of The Office before I ever watched Jay live.

    However – if cancelling Jay means that NBC would bring back that Thursday Update SNL spin-off, I could possibly have a change of heart…anything but that.

  • ficheye

    Whatever the public opinion of Jay Leno, I think that America expects way too much from the talk show genre.

    We are running out of interesting guests that haven’t been or aren’t currently in rehab. Conan is nervous. His skits falter. The year 3000 thing needs to go. And the sidekick is a wasted paycheck. I believe people like Conan because he is not Jay. That’s pretty sad.

    It’s the ‘Gen X’ solution, though… replace Jay with anything… quick, before I tune you out and listen to my iPod, or obsessively twitter myself to sleep.

    Jimmy Kimmel is far more at ease on the stage. And as far as Jay goes, firmly trouncing the other talk shows is also a lost tactic. I channel surf between them and lower my expectations, also watching Craig Ferguson who can actually be funny at times. Maybe it’s time to read a book. But not watch Wanda Sykes. She’s great as a guest, but not consistent enough.

  • Rorschach

    I started reading your comment but what with my generation’s inability to concentrate I had to quit half way through. Or as we kids put it: tl;dr

  • chelsea15jk

    “Existing NBC schedule: Heroes, P&R, Community, Trauma, & Mercy are borderline (or worse) for renewal already. Now you want development to come up with 5 more hours every week? ”

    That’s what I was going to say. :) If they cancel Jay and Sylar (Uhh, I mean Heroes) what are they going to do with all that empty space? NBC has sucky ratings all around, so they should just lower their standards a bit. XD

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  • ficheye

    Sorry, Rorschach. It was more directed at Mr. Poniewozik.

    I’m an ‘X’er myself, but terminally sarcastic and without an iPod.

    Poniewozik has been on an “I hate Jay’ thing for some time. Personally I watch these shows for the guests, not for the hosts. Don’t you think that Conan is nervous a lot of the time? How many times in his lifetime will he say “We have an excellent show tonight”? Repetition is a true sign of nervousness.

    Replacing Jay with a real show would be nice, but I think the negative ratings are manipulated to a degree AFAIC. Tl;dr? Ain’t ADHD a bitch?

  • ranger19

    Seriously. Why would anyone care if NBC, ABC, CBS, or any of the networks ‘make it’ or don’t? Has anyone ever tried to watch a football game or any major event on the network branch? The interruptive commercials are so thick with lame wit and sexist innuendos that it is a wonder anyone is watching.
    The world belongs to Google/Yahoo/Microsoft et al.
    I can’t say I’m sorry to see Leno go – it just ain’t funny anymore, Jay. The world is too serious a place for that kind of humor. I know that a sense of humor is important – but people are dying in needless wars.

  • http://twitter.com/poniewozik James Poniewozik

    If the report in TMZ is correct, you may be happy, at least vis a vis Conan:

    http://tunedin.blogs.time.com/2010/01/07/or-will-nbc-send-conan-walking/

  • cbzimmerman

    Much better idea: NBC can put a box in your home to determine the average of the people watching at 11:30, if you are 50+ you get Leno at 11:30, 49 and under Conan. Then everybody is happy. Or you get to choose, it will be like a Choose Your Own Adventure book, but on TV. I choose to get rid of Kevin Eubanks.

  • http://whatchannelareyouwatching.com Stephen Fofanoff

    The issue is also union contracts, which still treat network shows differently than “basic cable shows”, driving costs up.

    But here’s an idea… why not drop Leno into a weekly time slot, instead of daily, and kick up the “musical variety” elements of the show. Could be a great early Saturday night prime time family program.

    NBC could also do well to search out and grab shows like Better Off Ted and Pushing Daisies, already well-developed and easy to put back on the air (since ABC is burning off Ted…). If ABC could do it with Scrubs and have a winner, why can’t NBC do something similar with some of the great very recent shows that other networks have blown?

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