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Ex-Letterman Writer on Dave's (and Late Night's) Problem With Women

Throughout the David Letterman blackmail/affair imbroglio earlier this fall, part of the debate was: was it just sex, or was it sexual harassment? The latter question depends not just on whether Letterman’s lovers felt pressured, but on whether other female staffers felt the affairs created a hostile work environment.

Well, now at Vanity Fair, former Late Night writer Nell Scovell says that it did. And while she doesn’t want Dave gone, she does want him—and Jay Leno, and Conan O’Brien—to fix the larger problem of too-few women writers in late night.

Scovell quickly describes her own experience, after joining the staff in 1988:

Did Dave hit on me? No. Did he pay me enough extra attention that it was noted by another writer? Yes. Was I aware of rumors that Dave was having sexual relationships with female staffers? Yes. Was I aware that other high-level male employees were having sexual relationships with female staffers? Yes. Did these female staffers have access to information and wield power disproportionate to their job titles? Yes. Did that create a hostile work environment? Yes. Did I believe these female staffers were benefiting professionally from their personal relationships? Yes. Did that make me feel demeaned? Completely. Did I say anything at the time? Sadly, no.

Instead, she says, she left her job, partly though not entirely because of the sexual environment at the office. As for the rest of the reasons, Scovell alludes to them, though I wish she would have given more detail. She says she believes she had little chance to thrive in that workplace, and being in the minority had to contribute to that. But I’d be curious to know more about what it was like as a woman in the boys’-club writers’ room. Were her ideas taken seriously? Did she have a harder time getting jokes on air? Was she treated differently from male writers?

Scovell closes by making a good point about the lame reasons men have offered for being uncomfortable with women in the writers’ room: that it would put them on their guard, not unlike the old argument against women sports reporters in the locker room. Men, she says, suggested that women in the writers’ room would make them feel self-conscious. Who knew that guys who wrote jokes were such delicate flowers?

People will probably first look to this article for its public-relations effect on Letterman, who still faces the possible trial of his blackmailer. But if it shames him and other late-night hosts into recognizing that women can be funny, some good will have come of all this.

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  • tim1t

    I almost bought into what Nell Scovell says about the hostile work environment. And then she admits that she never complained to HR or a superior! Obviously if you never told anyone you were uncomfortable, you have no one to blame.

    If you don’t ask for something better, you’ll never get it. If you are prejudging your colleagues as bigots, that says more about you than them. So if Scovell wants to act like a martyr instead of reaching out to someone (anyone), then she can’t throw stones at anyone else.

    And ultimately Scovell’s situation doesn’t even fit the legal criteria of harassment. Anyone in HR will tell you that to have a case, the victim has to tell someone. Complaining about something years after the fact is useless.

  • beerbaron

    You would think having a woman in the room would keep the writers on their game, like when Dave interviews Julia Roberts. Most of these writers developed a sense of humor to impress women and compensate for their neurotic personalities and/or general unattractiveness, right?

  • marmilgra

    That poor, poor thing. How did she endure such a treacherous memory all these years? Nell has shown such self-restraint to hold in such a story of pain and anguish in her heart all these years until the proper amount of publicity could be gained from her whining.

  • http://www.simonvinkenoog.nl/beeld/Yogi%20-%20Annelies%20Rigter.jpg yogi

    Looks like Late Night and ESPN have another thing in commom besides a top ten list…

  • Rorschach

    It’s not as easy as that… she should have told someone, agreed, but ‘tattling’ isn’t the best way to get ahead, or to earn anyone’s trust. It can be intimidating.

  • rs1978

    You know why there aren’t many women writers in late night? They’re not funny! The women standup comedians are horrible and only try to be as raunchy as possible to get a giggle out of you. There are very few exceptions like TIna Fey or Amie Poehler. You wanna get on late night? Talk about something else besides how many guys you hooked up with in one night.

  • masurix

    Wow, most of these comments are a cornucopia of misogyny. Impressive. Considering your epic levels of compassion and understanding, it’s amazing why more of these unfunny, publicity-hounding bimbos don’t tattle and whine about their unattractive little non-issues, isn’t it?

  • http://lucyanneferr.wordpress.com lucyanneferr

    tim1t – did you actually read the piece or just rush through it eagerly looking to pick out bits that agreed with your world view and completely ignore what Nell said? She’s not looking for compensation. In fact, if you go to the actual Vanity Fair article, this is what she says about the very accusation you make:

    “I decided to speak up now for three reasons: 1. People who have no knowledge of the situation are voicing opinions, so why not me? 2. Letterman himself opened this up to a public discussion. 3. I’d like to pivot the discussion away from the bedroom and toward the writers’ room, because it pains me that almost 20 years later, the situation for female writers in late-night-TV hasn’t improved.”

    marmilgra ” Nell has shown such self-restraint to hold in such a story of pain and anguish in her heart all these years until the proper amount of publicity could be gained from her whining.”

    Yes and no. Should Nell have spoken up earlier, especially at the moment (which she describes in her article) Letterman asked her why she was quitting? Yes, she should have. Would it have saved her job? Perhaps for a week – Letterman might have listened and genuinely realized that there was a serious cultural problem here and tried to do something. And the writers working for him – both the men and the women sleeping with them – would have made her life hell and she would have quit anyway. Such is the whistle blower’s lot.

    But if she had spoken up earlier, would things be better now in late night comedy shows for female writers? Would there be more than the current number – zero – of female writers working for Leno/Letterman/Conan? Oooh yes. There would be – zero? one? two? twenty? how the hell can we know? Point is, we dont.

    What we do know is that there is a bloody problem, and there was a lack of good intel on it, and someone with prior first hand experience with it has just given us more intel on it.

    As she says, “Now, I don’t want a lawsuit. I don’t want compensation. I don’t want revenge. I don’t want Dave to go down (oh, grow up, people). I just want Dave to hire some qualified female writers and then treat them with respect. And that goes for Jay and Conan, too.”

    So yeah, grow up people. Stop pointing your fingers at the messenger and think about how to solve the problems outlined in the message.

  • michaelmcleister

    She has absolutely no room to make any comments. She made no effort to correct the problems she claims existed, did not submit a complaint to Human Resources and apparently did not even express her opinions to co-workers or supervisors. To make these claims after Letterman’s problems surfaced is in bad taste and capitalizes on the negative press. She should keep her comments to herself and not take advantage of the situation to make herself look like some helpless victim.

  • gnatalby

    But Letterman was the boss. How realistic is it to expect someone to go up to her boss and say “You’re creating a hostile work environment?”

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