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Is Leno a Success or Failure? And How Do You Tell?

A month into his run on the air, it’s about the time for observers to start weighing in on NBC’s Great Leno Experiment at 10 p.m. But as I alluded to the other day, the problem is determining what constitutes success and failure for The Jay Leno Show. Since it is a cost-containment measure before anything, it can’t be judged by the same ratings standards as the much more expensive dramas it replaced. On the other hand, since it occupies a third of prime-time, its success or failure extends far beyond its own numbers to its possible effect on NBC, and its affiliates as a whole.

In the New York Times, late-night guru Bill Carter takes a stab at it. And while he finds pros and cons, he sees some ominous signs.

On the plus side, The Jay Leno Show itself seems to be doing as expected in the ratings. (Itself a hard number to nail down, but talking to people outside NBC this summer, the consensus seemed to be that a decent performance would be slightly above his ratings in late-night, which, depending on the night, is around what he’s done so far.) Also, Carter notes, Leno has come close to or even with ABC several nights—for far less money—when expectations were he would consistently finish third against originals.

On the other hand, NBC overall is not looking good, and we have to ask if Leno’s show is part of the reason. The network has no new hits this fall (Community has done decently but no great shakes, and its rating has fallen). Old shows like the Law & Order franchise are declining. Oh, yeah, and Letterman has been breathing down Conan O’Brien’s neck in the advertising demo—which may not be Leno’s fault but at minimum Leno’s show does not appear to be helping.

But the stat that should be scariest for NBC is this: “Among the top 15 cities in the country, ratings for the late news — a prime source of revenue for local television — are down 10 to 30 percent.” The reason: if NBC is basically using Leno to downsize itself, and is willing to take lower ratings as part of a strategic retreat, fine. But if it seriously threatens a lot of affiliates’ cash-cow local news, all hell could break loose. If some major affiliates start threatening to move their news to 10 p.m., there could be a domino effect. When a Boston station threatened to do that last spring, NBC threatened to pull its affiliation. But what if several stations go into revolt, and call its bluff?

The real problem with assessing the situation are the big unprovables: namely, would NBC be doing any better without Jay? Its two fall dramas, Trauma and Mercy, were bombs at a much higher price tag, as was pretty much every drama the network launched last season. Would NBC be doing any better with dramas at 10? (As Carter points out, ABC’s new dramas in the hour have been bombs.) Leno posts his highest numbers when he has a strong lead-in, and it says everything you need to know about NBC that his strongest lead-in has been The Biggest Loser on Tuesdays.

Would a stronger show than Leno lift the rest of NBC’s schedule, or would a better 8-10 p.m. schedule lift Jay? More unprovables. Arguably, NBC’s problem is also, or even more so, everything it’s tried to launch besides Leno.

If NBC’s ultimate strategy is basically corporate rightsizing—trying to find a way to exist in an era of smaller numbers, possibly in preparation for a sale—then these may be part of the growing pains. Right now, NBC has no choice anyway but to be patient. The best news for Leno right now may be that his network has too many other problems to worry about.

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  • Tom Shaw

    tvbythenumbers.com succinctly summed up my response to the NYTimes article here:
    http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/11/ny-times-is-the-jay-leno-show-hazardous-to-nbcs-health/30166

    Essentially, the only argument that potentially holds any water is that Leno at 10pm is depressing 11pm news ratings. But even that is in doubt: The last numbers I saw thrown around said that while NBC affiliates’ news programs are down 16%, ABC’s were down 13%.

    That’s a statistical dead heat to me, and one that suggests any weak news ratings are due to weak lead-ins, not Leno specifically. Furthermore, I’d point out that while 10pm has been weak on NBC (and ABC) for years, even CBS is getting in the game: CSI:NY, Mentalist, and Numbers are down significantly from last year. Good Wife, while doing okay ratings, is still one of the worst performers on CBS from M-R.

    So while you could say Leno may be hurting 11pm news, the more accurate statement is that bad television at 10pm is hurting the 11pm news – and that no one, anywhere on the dial, can create hits at 10pm anymore.

  • rhys1882

    It is unfortunate that NBC is not even taking a shot at finding a good 10pm drama. It would have had 4 or 5 shows in those slots, each of them with a shot at being a hit. It almost feels like NBC is conceding its spot as a big network. It’s definitely the biggest crack to form in the old school TV network formula that has existed for so long. Just goes to show you that these big corporations will only change business methods when they are absolutely forced to. NBC was just to be finally forced to.

    How much longer till the other networks start radically changing their own rules? But really, aren’t people who are upset at the loss of content just trying to hold onto these antiquated formulas also? In reality, we have GAINED content through the rise of cable network dramas in the last few years. The fact that we’d lose dramas on a big network as a trade-off is not surprising. There isn’t room for all the new content and the same old content. The dramas on FX, TNT, USA, and AMC offset the 4 or 5 we lost on NBC. Not sure what the final numbers are if you work in the dramas lost to blocks given over to reality TV though.

    In the end, I think NBC was smart to stake its claim on a new format for the coming times. No other network will probably be able to offer a 10pm variety/talk show competitor to Leno, although if they get desperate enough and find the right TV personality, who knows. So NBC is first in adapting to the new realities, although they were pretty much forced into it at gunpoint. Leno is here to stay and will ultimately be considered a win by NBC (unless his numbers somehow bizarrely collapse farther, which seems unlikely at this point). They could care less about the cries of industry people lamenting the loss of the content. Their concern is advertisers and viewers, and they appear to be winning there. The affiliates are pretty much screwed. A casualty of the changing marketplace more then anything else. (Interesting trivia: I grew up in San Francisco and watching Letterman at 11pm, because the CBS affiliate didn’t have 11pm news. Sometimes I’d watch Letterman’s monologue and Top 10 and then switch over in time to watch Leno’s monologue.)

  • rand6

    Jay Leno is SUCCESS PROOF. You nor I can keep him from having people eyeballing him every time he is on. I can can just here is name and then look at my watch to see if its time for Jay Leno’s show!

  • http://coffinwheezin.wordpress.com coffinwheezin

    If drama were the answer I think NBC could put better dramas on at 9 and make the point. The real issue is that cable creates a higher revenue stream so that a significant amount of the quality programming is being developed for cable channels. The Emmy awards demonstrated that cable is wiping the floor with the networks as far as quality programming. If you want to watch a quality drama on a non-premium channel, the choices this year (aside from BBC imports on PBS) are (alphabetically) FX, TNT and USA. Besides, aren’t we all watching it on HULU anyway?

  • mrbilliam

    Do you know what bothers me? The fact that lead-ins really matter THAT much.
    So on Tuesday night, we have people who watch The Biggest Loser followed by Jay Leno: basically they watch mediocre TV for three hours straight. And apparently CBS has people who watch procedurals for 3 hours straight. I can’t even watch that much TV that I LOVE in a row. I generally feel like a couch potato after about an hour, and go accomplish something instead. And I never sit and watch the next show just cuz I’m too lazy to get off the couch.

  • http://www.bookhopping.wordpress.com Molly

    I can see lead-ins mattering a lot with Leno. The only way I would end up watching is if I see an ad during the lead-in about who was going to be on Leno (particularly a band), and that intrigued me enough to stick around for it. (Of course, this scenario only works if I’m watching the lead-in in real time, not on DVR, which makes it unlikely.) I would imagine there are plenty of people who aren’t huge fans of Leno himself, but might watch for certain guests.

  • plukasiak

    my mom, who used to stay up and watch Leno when he was on at 11:30, is unhappy with the new show. That being the case, “failure” is the correct word to describe Leno’s new show.

  • walkingdeep

    What about a drama about a network on it’s last legs, desperately fighting for survival? I can picture the promos leading off with slow-mo explosions in the ground floor of a high rise corporate building in NY, cars flying through the air, as people run desperately for cover. The scene switches to a man in a suit and sunglasses, detachedly viewing the horror from a corner office window in another high rise several blocks away. Without turning from the scene, he states in a monotone, “A similar fate awaits us….in the ratings, Jay, if you don’t pull this off.”
    Jay: “Three words: Green Car Challenge.”
    Voiceover: This fall, everything you know to be true will be shaken to its core. Jay Leno stars in “Desperate Measures.”

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  • Jim, Foolish Literalist

    just as a sidenote: I think the fact that The Biggest Loser is NBC’s most popular show says more about the audience than about the networks. Isn’t that dancing show ABC’s biggest hit? Arrested Development was cancelled to make room for American Idol. Of course, AD is the last case I can think of a really good show being cancelled for low ratings, and that was about five years ago. I don’t like Leno or reality TV, but it’s hard to care if the only thing they’re replacing is Grey’s Anatomy, and G’sA wannabes.

  • meanjoegreen59

    I have always like Jay, but in the long run I don’t think his show will be successful. I have been watching some of the DVD’s of the old Dean Martin Variety Show. Jay’s show will never, I said never be that good. If is was, I watch every night!

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