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The Morning After: Time to Give Up on Survivor?

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Brett Clouser, Erik Cardona, Russell Swan, John Fincher, Dave Ball, Jeff Probst, Mick Trimming, Russell Hantz, Ben Browning, Ashley Trainer, and Mike Borassi during the reward challenge," Schmergen Brawl" during the second episode of SURVIVOR: SAMOA, Thursday, Sept. 24 (8:00 - 9:00 PM ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. Photo: Monty Brinton©2009 CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved

Thursday night is becoming a high-class problem for TV viewers: on one night, we’ve got NBC’s comedy block (its two-hour comedy block, Mr. Leno), It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Fringe, Project Runway, FlashForward and Survivor. (Also Grey’s Anatomy, Vampire Diaries, etc., for those of you who partake–feel free to discuss any of those below.) I can see already that for the foreseeable future, I will be watching Thursday-night TV well into the next week. My official thanks to Heroes for sufficiently sucking that I have free time on Mondays.

It’s getting bad enough that last week I missed an episode of Survivor for the first time in years, and this could be the season I finally lose my longtime habit. (I’m not alone, it seems, as season-premiere ratings have been dropping.) But I watched last night, and for old time’s sake, a few (semi-spoilery) thoughts after the jump:

* It’s not helping tether me to Survivor that so far this season seems dominated by some unpleasant characters; and not fun, amusing unpleasant, as we’ve had several seasons, but ugly, unlikable unpleasant, as in Survivor: Thailand.

* Nonetheless, CBS has been playing up Russell in its promos for all he’s worth. His icky demeanor aside (he has a chilling glint in his eye, like some overgrown evil leprechaun), I’m not convinced he’s actually a good player. Yes, he can manipulate people. But I think he needs to pace himself. First, by focusing on eliminating threats so early, he may end up decimating his tribe, then going down outnumbered at the merge. And by making so many alliances so early on, he seems bound to get caught out as a triple-dealer too soon. That said, using meta-evidence, I have to guess he’ll be around for a while, or CBS wouldn’t be pinning so much on him in its publicity.

* I understand Jeff Probst’s getting cheesed off at the contestants’ brutalizing each other in the challenge last night. But here’s an idea, Survivor producers: if you’re disturbed by dirty pool and ugly play, how about you stop designing challenges in which you encourage contestants to beat the holy hell out of each other? There’s been a lot of this in recent seasons, and while it makes for exciting clips for the ads, and, usually, plenty of pixellated skin, these usually aren’t the most entertaining or exciting challenges anyway. (Not to mention that they give a big tribal-council advantage to beefy players, who usually have an edge in early voting to begin with.)

We’ll see how long I stick with Survivor: Samoa this season. There will be a part of me that will be sad if I drop it after so many years, but I’m only one man. Any Tuned Inlanders still standing by it?

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  • jimatl

    I’m still standing by it, though I have not watched last night’s ep yet. I agree that guy seems completely reckless and I can’t imagine that will play well as a long-term strategy.

    Probst – please lay off your disdain for contestants that don’t play the game with the digity of a Richard Hatch or Johnny Fairplay. It’s Survivor, not a gentlemanly round of golf.

    I still have faith in this show – don’t forget, the last few seasons have been great. Don’t let me be that last person who admits he loves Survivor!

  • profdante

    As I said yesterday, I’m sticking with it for now. I agree that the amount of camera time for the evil leprechaun dude and his tribe was really out of whack last night, but at least there are some entertaining (if ugly) personalities. Also agree that the beat-em-up challenges are boring, mainly because you can’t tell what the hell is going on. Just a bunch of people body slamming each other in the mud and then suddenly somebody scores a basket. There is no sense of strategy or who’s ‘ahead.’ Boring to watch.

  • rosseau

    No post FlashForward pilot discussion? I mention it only because there was a lively conversation yesterday about Lost and this show and how the two might be different, and therefore how Lost is special, which is reaffirmed by last night’s pilot. FF is so transparently trying to be the next Lost–with a similar opening, a name check to Oceanic Airlines and even their own Tom Cruise look a-like (the suicidal doctor)–that it only higlights the character-centric uniqueness of Lost. Each episode of Lost is/was completely about one different person, the flashbacks especially. The whole structure of Lost is dependent on character. FF is plot-centric. In terms of characters, it has two FBI agents, one of whom is an alcoholic, his wife, his sponsor, his babysitter, a weird Seth MacFarlane cameo, and that’s pretty much it. It could be a show about a modern family/marriage instead of a band of survivors but none of the characters have a voice yet. They are not distinctive and complex enough, if we go by the Lost standard.

    As for the pilot, I liked it mostly for the opening but there were some problems: swirling cameras around two people or more talking; Joseph Fiennes portentous line delivery contrasted with John Cho’s B-movie line delivery; a terrible and misplaced bathroom joke; what exactly is in a dream of “no more good days”; and 6 billion people blackout at the same time, so we are going to assign only three people to investigate it? But I am awaiting more characters and am interested in what happens next and if they strengthen the characters, all the better.

    Fringe had an awesome mutant cannibal baby.

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  • marglosw

    Thank you for pointing out the mess that is Thursday night primetime line up. Thursday night is now a nightmare in my household. We tape Fringe on the DVR and watch CSI on another television or vice versa just to show our support for both shows. The networks constantly complain about loss of viewers, but they make it impossible for us to watch our shows. Fringe has no business being up against CSI. I love both shows and want them to succeed, so I will spend the 09-10 television season playing games with the cable box in a futile attempt to keep them from being canceled.

  • samposts

    Thursday has become an odd television nightmare.
    I completely agree with rosseau’s assesment of Flash Forward (Seriously, three people on the case? Really?). As a die-hard Lost fan I know it’s a sad comparison, and yet I’m shockingly intrigued to see just how much more ridiculous it gets and how long the network will let it run. John Cho is also somewhat hypnotic.
    As for Survivor, I’ve always been a fan, but have drifted in and out of viewership. I hope it sticks around as it is a nice plan B. I like jumping in half way though when the “characters” get a bit more of the spotlight. I think this early there’s too many to follow.

  • tyrantking

    I used to watch survivor live and watch the other Thursday stuff that I had recorded after the kids went to bed. Now my kids are much to big to be ignored for an hour in the evening. Homework must be done; dinner must be consumed; teeth must be brushed, etc. As a result, I haven’t seen an episode of Survivor in years. Which is a shame because I used to enjoy it. I’d gladly get back on board if they moved it to another night. See what you can do JP. Thanks.

  • http://www.bookhopping.wordpress.com Molly

    I’m actually relatively new to Survivor — my husband has watched on and off for years, but last season was the first one I’ve watched. So far, this season isn’t nearly as good. Russell creeps me out a little too much, and he has so much screen time that I haven’t even identified anyone I really want to root for. And seriously, I wish the man would put on some pants. But I’m hoping it’ll get better as we get further in.

    As far as the Thursday night mayhem goes, it is low priority for us — we watch it over the weekend On Demand. NBC’s sitcoms, Always Sunny, and Project Runway are keeping our DVR busy enough as it is.

  • shoppingforthree

    Oh Survivor, you are killing me. I have watched so long it feels like I am losing a family member. But man…. Russell, you are too much. Ben, you are too much. Even the brutal challenge was too much. And– altogether… just painful to watch. Survivor going all Big Brother on me… never thought I would see the day. Remember how we loved Tom (the Fireman)? Stephanie (underdog)? Bob (oldest winner, the science teacher)? What made you think we would like all of these jerks?

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