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TV Tonight: Can FlashForward Get Lost?

When I pot post my Test Pilot first impressions of new shows over the summer, I make the point of stressing that they’re not reviews, because the pilots can be reworked before they’ve aired. That’s not a lie, but in the case of ABC’s FlashForward, the for-air pilot hasn’t changed from what I saw in June enough to change my initial mixed-to-disappointed impressions. So go ahead and read those.

I’m setting a Season Pass for FlashForward anyway. The show is based on an excellent concept (see my earlier post for the rundown on it, if you haven’t heard it yet), and I want it to be good. But being a TV critic is about setting aside what you want to believe and judging what you’ve actually seen. And what I’m afraid I see in FlashForward is, once again, a network trying to make “the next Lost” without seeming to get what made the last Lost great.

Too often, would-be Lost successors (Day Break, Invasion, even Heroes to an extent) make the mistake of thinking that Lost is all about the blow-your-mind mystery and the cool concept. It’s not. Before anything, Lost was about its characters and its writing.

Today we automatically associate Lost with Byzantine puzzles and awesome twists: Dharma, the Others, “You’re gonna die, Charlie,” and, of course, the flash-forward. It’s easy to forget that the pilot for Lost had almost none of that. There was a plane crash, people struggling to survive, and some freaky crap: a polar bear, a radio transmission, and something that killed the pilot. And there were the people—well-imagined, distinctive characters whom we connected to, so the really freaky stuff could come later.

FlashForward seems like a case of putting plot first. Joseph Fiennes, as the central FBI investigator, is a stiff, and this could be a real problem. But there are good actors here—John Cho, Sonya Walger—they just haven’t yet been given people to play. After having seen the pilot a few times, it’s a real effort for me to remember a single character’s name, or any distinguishing traits about them (as opposed to things that happen to them).

Some people, I think, believe that genre fiction (in this case sci fi) should be graded on a curve. I couldn’t agree less. The same principles apply: psychological depth, trueness to characters, originality and above all, voice. Lost, from its first minutes, had a voice. It’s characters had voices: you know, by the end of the first two hours, what Charlie, Hurley, Sawyer and Locke distinctively sounded like. (This owed to performers like Terry O’Quinn as much as to the script.) FlashForward, simply put, has no voice so far, and if it doesn’t find one, I’m not sure how long I can stick with it no matter how cool the plot is.

I will stick with it for now, though, because the premise is a doozy and I’m still intrigued. And I’m hoping the producers can retrofit a personality onto the show as it moves forward and adds to the cast. (Lost’s Dominic Monaghan, for instance, joins the show after tonight’s pilot.) Unlike FlashForward’s cast, I can’t see six months into the show’s future, so I’ll try to stay optimistic.

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  • http://www.simonvinkenoog.nl/beeld/Yogi%20-%20Annelies%20Rigter.jpg yogi

    “…once again, a network trying to make “the next Lost” without seeming to get what made the last Lost great.”

    That’s a great line, can you send it to all the networks to try to get it in their heads?

  • Chaddogg

    @James — way to hit the “next Lost” issue right on the head. Characters matter.

    I will add another thing, though. Everyone forgets — Lost was absolutely NOT a trippy/weird show at the beginning. It was merely “plane crashes on tropical island, survivors need food/water/shelter.” That was literally it — most of Season 1 dealt with finding food (Locke the hunter), whether they’d be rescued, the decision to leave the beach for the comfort of the caves, hoarding/using wreckage (Shannon’s asthma medicine), and trying to figure out where they were. Not at ALL the sci-fi-esque show that we now love.

    Now sure, there was some sci-fi weirdness, but it was VERY limited in scope: a weird hatch in the ground. A polar bear on a tropical island. The noise from the “monster” that killed the pilot. Rousseau’s transmission. Ethan kidnapping Claire. But nothing completely unexplainable (well, maybe the monster), and nothing too trippy to scare away casual viewers.

    In a way, that’s what I worry about with FlashForward — seeing society react and deal with the consequences of people blacking out for two minutes (the fires, crashes, riots, breakdowns in civil services), and then the blame game/fantaticism afterwards (was this terrorism? A new weapon? Aliens? God?) would have been an awesome way to play out the first season, BEFORE getting to the fact that people had visions of their future. In other words, people shouldn’t be asking “what do you see” in Season 1 — they should instead be asking “what happened/caused this” and dealing with the global event.

    (That being said, I’ll tune in. The good cast hopefully signed on for a reason — namely, that the writing of the characters was good/interesting.)

  • walkingdeep

    While the plot is definitely creative, I think it was chosen to keep the LOST crowd, not because we’re seeing another Abrams surfacing here.

  • lylebot

    I don’t know, I think it’s fair to say Lost is about the mystery and concept. It’s just that it succeeded despite that by combining it with good characters and good writing, and maybe also by having enough confidence in the concept to hold off on revealing too much about what it was really about until later seasons (maybe too much later given how frustrated some fans got in seasons 2 and 3).

    I just can’t quite accept that Lost is “about the characters” when the writers sometimes have to have them act in out-of-character ways to move the plot forward (see Juliet in the Season 5 finale). But I agree that the reason for its success goes beyond the mystery.

  • Chaddogg

    I disagree, lylebot. Watch that first season again — yes, there was “mystery” in the background, but the show itself, the episode by episode plot was just merely about survival and the people dealing with each other. Very little mystery going on as a plot aspect — really, it was only (1) The Hatch, and (2) Ethan that played into the actual plot.

    I mean, the raft didn’t set sail until the last episode of Season 1 — which was the FIRST time we saw the Others (well, at least non-Ethan Others). We didn’t get INTO the Hatch until Season 2. Ben Linus — arguably the most pivotal character on the show — did not appear until over halfway through Season 2.

    Lost was ALL about characters and the survival story early — not about a “weird” concept or “mystery.”

  • Dave

    Plot and characters work hand-in-hand. Lost wouldn’t have gotten out of season 1 if we didn’t love the characters, but it wouldn’t have gotten out of season 3 if we didn’t love the plot. The characters that keep us captivated rarely stay that way for more than a season or two – I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again: 2 of the top 3 characters weren’t introduced in season 1 (Desmond and Ben), and then in season 5, what character was the most captivating? Obviously that’s a point of opinion, but I say notLocke was the character I was most interested in. Huge credit to Terry O’Quinn, but in hindsight, I think the reason we were so interested in Locke this season was because it wasn’t Locke.

    I’m still catching up on season 1 of Fringe, but I’m undecided about how I feel about the show. The episodes are interesting enough, and I like a lot of the characters, but (mind you this is about 11 or 12 episodes in) there aren’t any characters I love. We’ll see how I feel about it at the end of the season (and after the 2 or 3 episodes from this year I’ll have to catch up on by then).

    Interestingly enough, I brought up this very same topic on a forum for another excellent show today, and I think it supports James’ thoughts very well. I recently discovered the show Legend of the Seeker (first-run syndication fantasy from Sam Raimi) and watched the entire first season on Hulu (second season starts 11/7!!!). If I were to attempt to explain the plot of the show, it would be very, very difficult to do so without making it sound terrible and cheesy. But after watching the show for a few episodes, it’s impossible not to love the characters, and once you’ve fallen in love with the characters, the plot is wonderful, fantasy cheese and all.

    The downfall for Heroes, for me as a fan, was that every week, I found myself hating the characters more and more for the choices they made. (The psycho time travel didn’t help, but if the characters made logical, interesting choices, they could have had Richard Simmons being the fuel behind the space-time continuum, and I would have probably still followed it.)

    I’m not entirely sure how I let the soapbox chain all the way to Heroes, but whatever… take it as you will :)

  • Dave

    @Chad – don’t forget Danielle and the Whispers in season 1. But your point remains – the characters took us in and hooked us for the show itself. But I’ll still hold that the plot is what kept fans coming back to the show for 5 seasons. Characters alone will only keep most fans coming back for 2 or 3 seasons, at which point the plot becomes interesting or the characters become stupid.

  • leto3

    Seriously, Ledgend of the Seeker is coming back for a second season??? I mean I liked the show and all but the ending screamed end of series more than any season finale I can think of right now.

  • Dave

    I actually think that’s what they were going for – an ending to the season such that a fan could be content just watching the one season. (Though I will point out that the complete non-resolution to the romantic tension irked me.) But alas, there are still 10 more books in the Sword of Truth series for them to loosely base the show off, so there’s plenty of plot for them to go through. (I haven’t read the books yet, though some who have show some hate for the TV show, since it takes, well, TV show liberties.)

  • bzdesk

    LOST-wannabe or not ( I say not but whatevs, right?) I am pumped for FlashForward. I have a feeling I’m totally going to dig it.

    Then ofcourse at 9pmET begins the battle for Middle Earth. Have mercy.

  • sulliclm

    Dave – couldn’t agree more with your assessment about how at different times Lost has relied on the characters and the plot to drive things.

    On Fringe though – how can you not love walter? Yes I love him more for his craziness which doesn’t add much early on, but trust me, watch the rest of the first season and you’ll feel completely different. I was on the fence about that show until about 2/3 of the way through the year, and by the end of the season i was completely sold. Interestingly enough i thought the season premiere was rather weak, but i still have high hopes…

  • Jen

    I’ve already seen the premiere episode twice, both in auditoriums with many people. Not only did I love FlashForward, but the audiences seemed to also. Here is what I had to say about it:

    FlashForward: Top 10 reasons to watch it http://bit.ly/31u6Tv

  • paullev

    Here’s an in-depth interview with Robert J. Sawyer about FlashForward, which I’m looking forward to seeing and reviewing tonight. http://paullev.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=527907

  • profdante

    Although I am very curious about FastForward, scifi nerd that I am, I am probably going to stick with my well-ingrained Survivor habit instead. I have yet to get my Comcast box and my Tivo working well enough together to figure out how watch something while recording something else.

  • Dave

    That’s what I expect to happen for myself also. At this point, I enjoy Walter, he’s fun, and there’s a lot of intrigue regarding him and Peter, but as of yet, I don’t really love any of the characters. But I’m borrowing the DVDs, and I have it on many good words that it’s well worth it by the end of the season.

  • john77006

    Well, until Bones or one of the NBC comedies gets cancelled, FlashForward will just have to be forgotten about. I don’t have U-verse and I can only do a certain number of shows at a time on my TiVo.

  • leto3

    I would also like to mention that Thursday may now be the single most crowded night of shows that I actually want to watch that I have encountered in a long time. All of the networks have something that I would at least consider watching if it was by itself, and by the time you throw in It’s Always Sunny on FX, and there just aren’t enough hours even with a dvr to watch everything. I feel like it will be Monday before I am caught up on everything from just this one day.

  • antilles13

    Fringe definately gets better over time – in all respects, not just the characters.

  • antilles13

    I was impressed enough with the Pilot (and the premise) that’ll I’ll definately keep watching. You’re right though, James, Fiennes was pretty weak. I think he’ll get better as the character develops; I actually liked him in Shakespeare in Love (though I’m probably in the minority there).

  • chelsea15jk

    Ooh some people mentioned Legend of the Seeker. . .I watached the pilot of that but I’m a HUGE fan of the books, and was too angry about how much they screwed up that I didn’t watch anymore. Anyways. . .

    My interest kinda went in and out when I was watching the pilot, but that guy walking around in that stadium footage totally got me interested in what happens next.

  • http://jbislost.wordpress.com jackalbane

    My thoughts exactly. I watched the entire pilot episode and I knew that I liked it, but I could also tell that there was something missing. Wasn’t until the second watch that I realized that I couldn’t remember what the main character’s name was until the near-end scene with him and his wife (remembered her name, Olivia).

    While the substance is clearly there under the surface, style still took a lead in this episode (Baywatch-ish slow-mo run down a block, anyone?). Not to mention the fact that he had to be reminded to check in on his wife and coaxed to actually go to her.

    Sticking with it a few eps, but definitely not the new Lost.

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