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Does a 10 p.m. Nightline Make Sense?

A few weeks ago, the New York Times’ Bill Carter and Brian Stelter wrote a piece looking at the possible implications of NBC’s scheduling Jay Leno at 10 p.m. in the fall. One of the lines in the story that generated some buzz was this:

NBC’s move has also caused planning battles inside ABC, whose 10 p.m. hours have been a string of disappointments in recent years. Although ABC will again fill 10 p.m. with new dramas this fall including “Eastwick” and “The Forgotten,” one ABC employee acknowledged that “Nightline,” the late-night ABC News show, has been talked about as a future 10 p.m. possibility.

I’m not sure I take the possibility that seriously now. I mean, I certainly believe the piece that the move has been talked about. Lots of things get talked about. And it certainly would be an ironic reversal of fortune for a news show that, a few years ago, ABC considered killing to get David Letterman. But I suspect that any reactions to NBCs Leno move will be in wait-and-see mode for quite a while—and even then, I’m skeptical that ABC would go with a news show as its alternative.

Still the talk has stayed sufficiently alive that ABC News’ David Westin knocked down the buzz on last weekend’s Reliable Sources. So it’s worth asking: would the move be a good idea?  

The advantages would, of course, be similar to those with Jay Leno: it would be far cheaper than airing five dramas a night. A news program would be counterprogramming not just to CBS’ dramas (and cable’s) but also to Jay. (Though CBS might be the big winner there.) 

But another reason to try Nightline—or a show like it—is that it could solve the problem both of how to make primetime cheaper and what to do with the flagging evening newscasts. I and plenty of other critics have speculated in the past that, with 6:30 news audiences aging and shrinking, we might eventually see a primetime newscast instead. Putting a show like Nightline in primetime could just be a backdoor answer to that issue. 

The audiences for evening newscasts continue to shrink—in recent weeks, the combined three drew around 20 million viewers, compared with 25 or 30 million a decade ago or less. Now, they will argue, rightly, that that’s much more than the cable channels draw at any particular half hour (though that argument ignores the fact that cable news is not on only a half hour a day). But the trendline for the newscasts is undeniable. 

If you were to try to do news in primetime instead, would it make sense to put the equivalent of today’s 6:30 newscasts there? Granted, those shows have moved away from simply trying to provide all the day’s headlines, but that still informs much of what they do, and it’s an increasingly irrelevant service in the Internet and cable era. If you were to try to rethink news for primetime, why not do away with the headlines, and have each night’s newscast go in depth on a few issues, or just one? Why not have it be more like… Nightline? 

A primetime news show like that would not have to arrive as a replacement for the evening news. But someday, if one of the networks decided to give up the 6:30 news, it could replace it by default. (The stars are not aligned for that right now, because the network with the weakest evening-news ratings, CBS, has far and away the strongest 10 p.m. drama ratings.) 

I’m still not about to lay money on Nightline making it to primetime, ever. But the more I think about it, the more I suspect that, if we ever see the vaunted primetime network newscast—perhaps as a replacement for the evening news—it would make sense for it to look less like the nightly news and more like Nightline. 

Of course, there’s also the possibility it could look more like To Catch a Predator. Or Larry King Live. Or The Biggest Loser. Maybe we should try to get Nightline at 10 p.m. while we still have a chance.

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  • Tom Shaw

    I apologize for repeating myself (and again wish there was some better way of searching the Time blog comments), but all this discussion ignores a salient point:
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    Between 20/20, Primetime, etc. much of ABC’s 10pm hour has already been occupied by news for much of the 90′s/Aughts.
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    Also, recall that like Fox, which essentially airs their 10pm hour on the FX network, ABC has a number of cable outlets they can also move their 10pm programming to (Lifetime being the obvious first choice).
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    Given the various primetime ABC news formats that have aired though, I see the new show shaping up slightly differently:
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    Let’s call it Nightline, keep the late night news brand. Assuming, what, 40 minutes after commercials to fill, I see the structure working like this:
    10 mins. Recap of the day’s news.
    10 mins. Live discussion on a single topic- at the earlier hour would mainly be guests at the studio, but could also be feeds from other news desks/live locations.
    10 mins. 20/20 Insight (or other similar title that keeps the 20/20 name). Filmed exposes in 20/20 style on whatever. Possibly Fridays are reserved for Stossel’s contrarian bits.
    10 mins. More live discussion. Either panel discussion on another topic or interviews with the newsmaker of the day.
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    With at least a 10 minute recap of the news, I could see them abandoning the 6:30 newscasts and giving that time to the affiliates (who are then mollified slightly for the lesser ratings they’ll see at 10pm).
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    Of course, that is assuming Leno works out for NBC and/or ABC doesn’t get tired of writing checks to Sony/WB/etc. for more failed 10pm shows. Either way, I don’t expect ABC to change 10pm until the 2011/2012 season.

  • jimatl

    I dunno. I still think people want LESS news from the networks. By 10 PM, the people who want news either have it already or are getting it from cable. Those that don’t want to see crazy people go on “dates” with other crazy people. Are the only people who want more news on TV are people who report news for a living?

  • Bemused

    Did anyone catch Jon Stewart’s interview of Katie Couric last week? It was good-natured but brutal–just joke after joke about the aging and shrinking audience for the network news, particularly on CBS. I found it funny but almost uncomfortable. Katie was really a good sport (or else she just really hates her job).

  • babydiscarted

    I don’t want a replica of the 6:30 news in primetime, but I actually would watch a news magazine show – one that is smart like 60 Minutes or Nightline. We do NOT need more 1-hour mystery shows about a woman killed by her husband in 1991. But relevant issues and cultural reports? That would be welcome.

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  • lostepic

    \”What to do with the flagging evening newscasts\” Thank you. Thank you. Nightline, unlike 20/20 and Dateline, talks about the news, world affairs and domestic issues, not paranoia TV. \”What’s really happens in the surgery room when your under sedation. Next.\” Yes those that want that type of real news can get it from cable, internet and sometimes from the paper. But we must realize hard hitting news moved to cable because the mass-audience were more interested in Entertainment Tonight than what’s happening in Serbia, Lebanon, Swaziland etc… You want to understand the dilemma, watch \”Good Night, Good Luck\” its an excellent film about Edward R. Murrow and his dealings with, McCarthy, but more importantly the media and its view of news. The opening scene is prime example; his speech was practically prophesy, of where we are in network media today, Leno or Nightline. People will generally pick Leno over Nightline. After a hard days work what do people want, \”boring politics\”, as I’ve been told, about places and people we don’t know, or comedy that talks about movie

  • scorpioannie

    @babydiscarted: Well said! I definitely enjoy the smart news magazine shows like 60 minutes, but I also can’t stand the “mystery” shows about the murders from more than a decade ago.
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    I actually really like the format proposed by Tom Shaw – that sounds like an interesting show that I’d actually watch…

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